The absolute disaster has finally been reviewed

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  1. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    problem with RB2018 design is that in a long term gaming session, it'll throttle both cpu/gpu assuming fan doesnt just go full blast 24/7.

    with GT63, it'll probably throttle at start but once fan starts spinning, long term gaming session will probably have no throttling, assuming no ec/battery/bios throttling cancer doing its work.

    long term gaming session would be something like, 4ghz at all time w/e the max frequency cpu can be kept, GPU under constant load, gaming for 3+ hrs on high/ultra resolution.
     
  2. ahmad hendeh

    ahmad hendeh Notebook Evangelist

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    In gaming even the aero 15x can hold 3.9Ghz. Power throttling kicks in when the CPU gets pushed to 100%(which no game does that to an I7 8750H currently). And happens across stock thin/thick laptops to the same degree.

    For example at max fans(64DB) a GE63/GP63 can manhandle the I7 8750H.Literally 68C average after hours of BF1 with UV. The GS65 gets ~75C with cooler boost max fans in BF1. both with rock solid 3.9Ghz.

    Most of the beefier cooling of the titan goes to keep the 1080 in check. The CPU cooling is mostly the same.

    The only issue I have with thins is Max-Q. Had nvidia didn't make the Max-Q shortcut we would have seen innovative GM501 like laptops handling the 1170.
     
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  3. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yeah, I can see that. And every score I see from first round Cinebench R15 from 6 cores BGA in this thread is crippled. And worse it will be after first round. I put it here!!

    Correct CBR-15 scores for BGA clocks (i7-8750H@3.9GHz all 6 cores). Not even with optimized voltage for the fixed clock speed.
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    ahmad hendeh Notebook Evangelist

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    @Papusan MB for first point.



    My argument was never that BGA laptops were performance kings. It was that the I7 8750H performance in thin laptops is consistent with the I7 8750H in thick ones.

    If one wants performance and doesn't need portability . LGA all the way. The sku X4C is lighter than a BGA thick I9 laptops and slaughters them in all categories. Once the F5 gets upgraded it will return to being the pound to pound king.

    I can't see the brainwashing in my arguments.
     
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  5. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    What? Where did you see 1650cb? I clocked down my LGA down to i7-8750H clocks and just run Cinebench R15 (1327cb). The numbers speak for themself. Even an i7-8750H manage 48-50w package power in first round Cinebench R15. See also the link in my post and follow the posts right below.
     
  6. ahmad hendeh

    ahmad hendeh Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry about the first point. I read the identical system scores. I've seen your score and stock scores of 1290@ 44W is insane. BGA silicon lottery winners get ~1150@45W stock . Just goes and proves how badly binned BGA cpus are.

    The I7 8750H is just Trash I7 8700K chips that didn't make the cut.instead of throwing bad chips they sell them as locked BGA to post their yields. So getting smashed in efficiency is expected.

    My argument in this thread was never that BGA laptops were performance kings. It was that the I7 8750H performance in thin laptops is consistent with the I7 8750H in thick ones.which is true.
    Whether the I7 8750H sucks or not is a matter for another day.

    If you lose the BGA silicon lottery you get this.(helios 500). 940 for 45W, atrocious.
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  7. electrosoft

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    LOL......my laugh for the day, thanks DB. :)

    But some of the results of the i9 Macbook Pro has it bottoming out at 2.2ghz on all cores....yuck.
     
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  8. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    now the sheeps who bought macbook pro with i9 all realize 6 core cpu is all worthless unless it is a 5 sec burst turbo, then need 2 mins to cool off, rinse repeat.
     
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    9ac3 Notebook Consultant

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    Similar verdict reached by Lisa Gade from MobileTechReview:



    One would have to be a pretty hardcore Mac fanboy to buy this overpriced garbage.
     
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  10. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    This thread has gotten a little overcooked and is now closed.

    Start a new topic if you wish.

    Charles
     
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