Tecra M2 or S7010D?

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  1. niceamos

    niceamos Newbie

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    I've been searching for a laptop that's portable (<5lbs) with a good performance for a long time and i finally got down to toshiba M2 and S7010D. The spec I want is basically 1.5GHz 512MB, 40 or 60GB HDD with wireless.
    M2 has a better graphics card and more HDD capacity with 3 yrs warranty for the same price, but fujitsu seems to be lighter and cooler looking. I haven't seen any review about M2's battery life and I really wonder how it is. I've heard that S7010D lasts max. 3hrs which is fine with me, but i'd prefer a laptop which can last longer as well. I'm in a dilehma for which one i have to buy. What would you say?
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    I think the Fujitsu wins the quality and support contest, hands down. I suspect you could do better than 3 hours on the battery as well. I doubt you'll have any problem going with the S7010.

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  3. mar2k

    mar2k Notebook Guru

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    Well, in the Toshiba forums I was reading a thread where someone was describing the M2 as cheap and "plastiky" feeling:

    http://www.notebookreview.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1091

    and he was disappointed when he saw it in person. Granted, its just one opinion and there seems to be another person who is completely satisfied with the M2 in the same thread. However, that being said, I have NEVER seen anyone describe Fujitsu notebooks as cheap or "plastiky" feeling.

    I'm on the verge of ordering the S7010D myself. I'm just wondering if the 4200rpm hard drive and integrated graphics will be good enough for light game playing if I up the memory to 768MB. No 3D games. Rise of Nations, SimCity, Civilization 3 are what I had in mind, basically strategy games.
     
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    nonprophet Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm in exactly the same boat you are, having narrowed my choice to the tecra M2 or the S6120 or S7010. BTW, I'm the one who mentioned that I was disappointed with the M2 when I saw it.

    It's really a tough decision between these 3 machines. I've not actually seen one of the S-series laptops yet, and thus I won't buy one until I do. One lesson I really learned for the M2 was that at least in it's specs/price/performace, etc. ratings it seemd like "the one" and I was seriously considering buying it sight unseen--and I'm so glad I did not. I had used a Tecra M1, which was a wonderful machine--very solid and well-built, firm keyboard, etc. it also sold new for about $3,800.......So when I heard the M2 was coming out, would weigh less, cost much less, and still be full featured (wireless, firewire, etc) I was sold. Apparently, in order to keep the weight down Toshiba went with lighter componants of the M2, and maybe that's why it felt "cheap/plastiky" to me, but then again the magnesium caes of the Fujitsu's are light too, and no one has described them as "platiky" I guess I was so disappointed in the M2 after having used the solid-feeling M1 and S1 which were magnesium, whereas the only thing magnesium on the M2 is the outside cover of the screen (the lid) and everything else is plastic. That being said, maybe it's just a psychological thing where the metal casings/frames feel more solid......I don't know. Anyway, at this point for me the ONLY reason I would buy the M2 over a Fujitsu is because of the extended no-fault warranty that you can buy for their Tecra line (it's called "system guard") that essentially covers the machine against ANY DAMAGE for 3 years ($179) --so if I drop it, spill coffee on it, whatever, I can get a replacement machine. That's a biggie to me. On the other hand, Fujitsu is well-known for their customer service, and that too is VERY important for me after several bad expereinces with previous laptops and tech support andor warranties that expired and having to pay those #$%@@!$% "per incident fees" just to keep my computer running.....The tech support folks at Fujitsu I talked to (yes, i wanted to check out their service) said they offer free tech support for as long as you own the computer!

    So for me, I'm really leaning towards the S6120 or the new S7010. The intitial review on the S7010 isn't so great, both in terms of battery time and he makes mention of not liking the keyboard much, but I can't remember why. I'm going to try and find one I can test drive, and then make my decision.

    NP
     
  5. mar2k

    mar2k Notebook Guru

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    I hear ya. I may go ahead and pull the trigger and order one from PortableOne. They assured me if I was not happy with it I could return it within 30 days if it was in like new condition. They take issue with the ABC article and assure me the keyboard is solid. I asked them a bunch of questions and them seemed assured that I would be pleased with the S7010. The fact they would offer me 30 days is good enough for me. Newegg has it $100 cheaper but no Bluetooth, carrying case, free floppy drive, plus no option to upgrade warranty. $100 for 3yr seems like a no brainer to me. Plus P1 will check for dead pixels before sending out which is great. Newegg will only exchange for same item so if I'm not happy with it you are screwed as far as getting your money back.

    If I buy one I'll post my impressions here first. This would actually be my first personal laptop purchase. I've had one through work but that's it. Tired of worrying about what program I load on there.

     
  6. niceamos

    niceamos Newbie

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    I'm leaning towards S7010D from PortableOne probably w/ the memory upgrade to 512MB and 3yr warranty. I wonder how mar2k got the 30 day return deal. Do I just call them and ask for it? If you don't mind sharing the information, i'd like to try that just in case [:)]
     
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    mar2k Notebook Guru

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    niceamos,

    That's what they told me via email when they responded to me. I'm not sure if that's their official policy but they were obviously disappointed in the ABC review and felt it was not accurate. Perhaps thats whey they were willing to give me 30 days if unit returned in new condition, but in any case, that's what I was told. They are reputable so I am sure they will honor it.

     
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    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    For the record, we've returned a Fujitsu S6000 to them after 25 days and were issued a full refund. Be very careful in the packaging though, as the case can scratch during shipping if not properly secured.

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    mar2k Notebook Guru

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    I figure you really can't go wrong if they offer you 30 days return period. I actually went ahead and placed my order today so I'll post my impressions as soon as it gets here and post some photos as well. I went for the 1.5GHz model with 768MB memory upgrade and 3 yr warranty. If I'm not happy with the unit it will go back, but I'm hoping I'll be pleasantly surprised.
     
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    cknobman Notebook Consultant

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    I am a owner of a tecra m2 and I also looked at the fujitsu S series before I purchased. I decided to go with the toshiba hand down after actually using a fujitsu at my local electronics dealer(frys electronics). The fujitsu has no nicer of a case than the tecra, in fact it is very plain and lacks features. The fujitsu is a very basic machine that lacks things like a dual pointing devices, card reader, firewire, and independant graphics. I like fujitsu and they do make some very nice machines but the S series is just to skimmed down. The toshiba is not quite as small but offers alot more. Contrary to what some in this thread might say, I feel after knowing owners of both brand that toshiba has better quality. Many of the fujitsu owner I know have real problems with keys on the keyboard falling off. Toshiba has a great warranty and I get all the performance I ever wanted out of it.
    Games you ask? I play battlefield vietnam all the time on it without a problem (for those who dont know it is a brand new game that is pretty demanding on a system)
    The tecra generates very little heat and never cuts off or shuts down on you. I am a big hater of integrated graphics becaus they are so limited in what they can do when it comes to games and this is a major reason why I did not get the fujitsu.
    Anyways just wanted to give my input as I considered the fujitsu when I made my purchase.
     
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