Speed or Control? Razer Goliathus Mouse Pads

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Speed or Control?

Poll closed Oct 15, 2011.
  1. Speed (Razer Goliathus Speed Edition)

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. Control (Razer Goliathus Control Edition)

    8 vote(s)
    66.7%
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  1. 3demons

    3demons Battlefield 3 Ace

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    awesome! thanks alot for the input!
     
  2. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    using G700 on Qck heavy, and it feels great.
    should be kind of similar surface with the goliathus speed, so I'd recommend it.
    i only dig all black so qck is still my number 1 pick :D

    people on OCN are worshiping puretrack talent and Artisan mousepad for cloth pads so you may want to check them out too.
     
  3. johan_chandy

    johan_chandy Notebook Guru

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    This is my own opinion but If you use low-med dpi settings then DONOT buy the Goliathus speed. Its too slick and you will experience a loss of accuracy in your gameplay in games where accuracy is important like CS for instance...I use low sensitivity and feel my goliathus speed was a mistake. Felt the qck (forgot which one) was light years better..... Its upto you, If you can try them out somewhere like friends please do as each person has a different comfort zone...If pinpoint accuracy is not as important then the Speed would do just fine...The good thing about the goliathus pads is that most laser mouse sensors track pretty well on them(tried on the speed, not sure about the control)....The mouses I have used are the Xai, Deathadder, Diamondback, Abyssus, Mamba, mx518 and the logitech g500 which I currently own( I hate the G500 btw), and if you are going to use mouses that use an optical or infrared sensor then avoid the Speed as they track pretty badly on it, eg: current deathadder,mx518, abyssus. -that was incase you have an extra mouse, or plan to get one.

    Anyway I hope I've been helpful!
     
  4. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Interesting, what sort of tracking problem have you had on it with optical mouses? Personally I have had no issues on it with the Deathadder (1st version) and Diamondback. The Ikari laser is working fine on it of course. :p
     
  5. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I have also had no trouble tracking on my Goliathus Speed with my Mamba, DeathAdder, Orochi, MX518 or G9. I'll check my old Sidewinder too as soon as I can find it. :p
     
  6. 3demons

    3demons Battlefield 3 Ace

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    i seems like i might head towards the speed one.... but ill wait for a few more inputs.

    but thanks so far guys.
     
  7. johan_chandy

    johan_chandy Notebook Guru

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    I wasn't talking about the first version Deathadder(the first version is known to track well on most surfaces and pads). The 3500 dpi Deathadder tracks horribly on the Goliathus Speed(known jitter issues). The Diamondback clearly tracks better on a qck(tried side by side)(I loved my diamondback). As I said the surface is waay too slick for any mouse if you're using low to med dpi. Haven't tried the Ikari though. My point? you can get a much better pad for your mouse.

    The tracking problem I experienced was a loss in my accuracy in gameplay as compared to using a better mat suited for the mouse. It was not due to any defect in the design of the mat other than the mat being too slick. Using a standard qck I was waaay more accurate and headshots were a breeze. I'm not saying that you can't get used to the pad but trust me getting a better pad is much more worth it. My friends in college wanted to try out my mouses on both the pads(they are gamers btw) and they all found playing on the Goliathus Speed way more difficult than with the Qck. The only reason I keep it is that it looks nice and that I don't game as much anymore.

    And like I said in my previous comment lazer sensors track pretty well on the pad(subjective)(only tried my G500)(didn't have much dough to shell out on more pads and mice so I couldn't try other alternatives), but I'm sure you can get a much better alternative.

    I recommend getting a hard mat for the G700 as lazer sensors track better on Hard mats than on soft mats(goliathus are soft mats).

    check out this thread for help;
    http://www.overclock.net/mice/916543-best-mousepad-g700.html
     
  8. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    My 3,500 DPI DeathAdder has no trouble with jitter on my Goliathus Speed, at 800 DPI or 3,500. I dunno what to tell you; maybe yours is dirty?

    As far as being too slick...well, I think that's just about impossible for a mouse pad. ;)
     
  9. crayonyes

    crayonyes Custom Title! WooHoooo !!

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    while it's true xai is having problems with cloth pads, my G700 have no problem on qck cloth pad

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/accessories/608489-dpi-optical-vs-laser-accuracy.html
    see post #12 for xai, and #20 for my g700. both on qck
    lesson: don't judge by the sensor alone. same sensor in different mouse can give you different results.

    ps. my qck is not clean at all LOL
     
  10. johan_chandy

    johan_chandy Notebook Guru

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    Dude I never had any problems with a qck. I love that pad. Read my post properly. And why I recommended a hard mat is to make the decision process simpler for the OP. Lazer sensors are known to track better on Hard mats and the G700 is known to track extremely well on most Hard mats so a hard mat is pretty much a safe bet. You say the G700 tracks well on the qck, great but it may track better on a hard mat. The goliathus speed I have is pretty good for my G500, but I may be better ingame if I used a hard mat.

    And lol I'm pretty aware how you can get different results with a same sensor but different mice, but don't go telling me I've judged wrong when I haven't.

    @Mastershroom: um jitter is a pretty well known problem with the 3500 dpi deathadder with the goliathus speed, don't beleive me? google it. If you can try a qck pad out and you will notice how much better it tracks on a qck instantly.

    read the comments in this thread for other people experiencing the jitter issue:
    http://ariekanarie.nl/archives/215/razer-abyssusrazer-deathadder-3500dpi-review

    o_O And being too slick is not at all impossible for a mouse pad....Have you tried a glass pad? Then again how slick is too slick is entirely subjective and I was explaining what I felt.

    @3demons: Just go for the goliathus speed if you know your going to stick with the g700. This thread is kinda getting out of hand and I apologize for that. I use alot of mice so just in case you do or plan to buy an extra mouse or something you don't have to buy a new pad if you get a good one in the first place that works well with most mice :)...Just my 2 cents. Hope you get the pad that you are looking for as I remember when I started searching for a pad how frustrating it was to get one to my liking.
     
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