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Sony Noise Cancelling ear phones that came with the Vaio Z...

Discussion in 'Sony' started by Sprite, Jul 19, 2010.

  1. Cusem

    Cusem Notebook Guru

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    I bought a preconfigured model so I didn't order the Vaio at SonyStyle.

    Apparently this preconfiguration (VPCZ12Z9E) does not come with noise cancelling earplugs, since the box was sealed. Strange since it is the maxed out i7, quad raid, FHD config.

    I know of the SonyStyle configuration site in the screenshot, however no model/partnumber is specified and I can't find the earplugs in the accesories section. And although I would like to have those puppies, I don't think I'll be ordering another Vaio-Z to obtain those plugs ;)

    I'll call Sony tommorrow.
     
  2. travfar

    travfar Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a theory. Since these plugs aren't standalone noise cancelling phones, they look exactly like my $100 Sony NC earplugs except they are missing the controller box. I think all they are is a pair of plugs with microphones on the side. The Z is what does the NC processing. In that case, has anyone just tried a standard set of ear plugs with builtin microphone to see if NC works with that?
     
  3. Cusem

    Cusem Notebook Guru

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    Which software controls the NC on the Vaio? Or can't you configure it?
     
  4. Sprite

    Sprite Notebook Consultant

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    yah, i noticed the earphones have 4 connections, i am assuming the 4th connection is the mic?

    mine is a preconfig and it came with the earphones. actually all the preconfigs here (VPC Z126, Z127, Z128, and Z129) comes with the ear phones and cloth.

    i wish we could order a CTO here, there were a few things i didn't really need.

    anyways, i was browsing through the sony site in the USA and europe (pre config and CTO), i do not see a matte screen option as some people claim. its all the premium display aka glossy.
     
  5. blue13x

    blue13x Notebook Deity

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    What is the exact model of these headphones anyway?
     
  6. Cusem

    Cusem Notebook Guru

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    I called SonyStyle in The Netherlands and they were unable to help me and tried to sell me €120 headphones.

    I bought a preconfigured model (VPCZ12Z9E) and it didn't come with the earbuds so they don't come with all preconfigs.

    I searched eBay and just ordered a pair of MDR-NC022 earbuds. Don't know if these are exactly the same as the Vaio Z's (SonyStyle couldn't find a model number of the earbuds), however for $24,99 I don't mind to take a little chance.

    Can't wait to make those puppies cancel out the Vaio-Z's fan noise ;)
     
  7. solvalou7

    solvalou7 Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's part of the realtek driver package. Don't you have a tray icon for noise canceling ? All options are greyed out until you connect the earphones. The driver detects it and enable noise canceling. Theres like a slider bar where you configure how strong is the noise canceling.
     
  8. Cusem

    Cusem Notebook Guru

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    Nope. I haven't got a trayicon for noise cancelling.

    My "Sony" (related) trayicons are:
    • Vaio Update
    • CD/DVD Drive Power
    • Hybrid Graphic switch
    • Synaptics Touchpad
    • Protector Suite 2009
    • Intel Rapid Storage Technology
    • Smart Network

    I've also haven't got any Realtek related trayicon and haven't got anything related to Realtek in the Start Menu (Windows 7 x64 Professional).

    Device Manager does display "Relatek High Definition Audio" as the sound controller though.
     
  9. solvalou7

    solvalou7 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thats weird. I have exactly the same tray icons as you do plus the realtek noise canceling one. I think maybe you should reintall the realtek drivers ? Try downloading latest versions from support website Sony eSupport - VPCZ122GX - Software Updates & Drivers
     
  10. 5ushiMonster

    5ushiMonster Notebook Deity

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    I had a Sony Walkman MP3 which did noise cancelling (the NWZ-S736) with the EXACT phones that the new Z comes with today. That was over a year ago now. The model no is MDR-NC022. Note that these phones do NOT work with any other devices except those made by Sony which support NC. That little bump on the jack prevents the NC022 from fitting into the sockets of other incompatible devices. The NC devices however do allow for the use of everyday headphones.

    The mics on the earphones capture sound from the surroundings, sending that data back to a chip in the VAIO which then processes some anti-noise, which is then sent back to the earphones along with whatever sound is suppose to be played back.

    @travfar
    That will require a firmware hack. There is a chip which processes the anti-noise. You would need to reconfigure the software managing the headphones and laptop mic to get the laptop mic capturing the sounds instead of the earphone mics.

    @Cusem
    I know it is theoretically possible to configure how much noise the headphones cancel out on the S736, but not too sure with the VPC-Z. Though it is possible, theoretically.
     
  11. Cusem

    Cusem Notebook Guru

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    Thanks! Site does mention the driver only being for US/Canada based models. Mine is EU. I downloaded the same driver from the EU Sony site (same version). Package differs in size 1MB though. If the EU driver update doesn't work, I'll try your link.

    Great! Nice to know I didn't waste $25.
     
  12. 5ushiMonster

    5ushiMonster Notebook Deity

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    I am also aware of the MDR-NC023, which only come with the now superseded NWZ-X1000 series Walkmans. They have the exact same connectors and physical shapes (including the jack) just different model numbers.

    The MDR-NC022 also came in two colours. I originally had a black one which I was forced to replace under warranty with a silver one (the rubber edging around the perimeter of the metal driver-casings fell off and got stuck in my ear canal; a relative of mine had a tweezer on her and I got it out that way...)
     
  13. fourfournine

    fourfournine Newbie

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    I bought the MDR-NC022 headpones for my z-11 and my headphone jack doesn't have a notch in it to accept the male connector.

    I physically removed the notch on the side of the headphones,plugged it in, and one side of the headphones does the noise reduction, so I'm positive I've got the NR chip in my laptop. Wasted 20 bucks though :mad:

    Am I missing something here? Does everyone else's z have a notch in the headphone jack to accept these weird headphones? Did I get the wrong pair?

    If anyone can take the time to photo the male and female headphone jacks, that would be helpful too.
     
  14. 5ushiMonster

    5ushiMonster Notebook Deity

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    @fourfournine
    I hope you are talking about the VPC-Z11 (not the VGN-Z11).

    Also, don't all VPC-Z come with noise cancelling? Which is why I'm curious as to why your machine doesn't have the 'notch'. Well, if it seems to be doing noise cancelling on one side, it means it's working somewhat. Try installing the Realtek Audio driver from a VPC-Z model you KNOW comes with noise cancelling from the factory.
     
  15. fourfournine

    fourfournine Newbie

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    Yep, I have the newer VPC.

    My port looks identical to this one. Perfectly round, with no notches to fit that weird plug into. THe headphones I ordered have a male connector like the one shown here.

    I installed the official vpc z11/z12 realtek driver, and it's working great. Like I said, even turing on the noise canceling works for the one still-connected ear, there's just no way I can shove in that proprietary plug unmolested.

    Does your headphone port look like the second picture?
     
  16. 5ushiMonster

    5ushiMonster Notebook Deity

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    Actually I have the VGN-Z (which of course doesn't have NC features).
    That said, I have owned the Sony NWZ-S736F MP3 player which has NC and used the same earphones that the VPC-Z come with.

    Living in New Zealand, where there are only 2x variants of the VPC-Z (2x variants per refresh), I have yet to see a VPC-Z that does NOT have the male connector bump on the ear jack; all the VPC-Zs here come with noise cancelling and the appropriate NC earphones from factory.

    Which brings me to ask you this question...
    Was your VPC-Z advertised to have noise cancelling? The fact that it partially works at the moment is, unfortunately, irrelevant; I believe that Sony ships all VPC-Zs with the same sound board regardless of them being advertised of having NC or not; they just change the earphone jack as required. But yeah, your case is strange... I have never seen (or even heard of for that matter) a VPC-Z that doesn't have NC...
     
  17. fourfournine

    fourfournine Newbie

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    Mine is a VPC-Z11DGX-SJ, manufactured March 2010. Every early review shows the same round, notchless plug just like mine, so I think you're right: unless it specifically came with the (I'm guessing optional?) PC earbuds, then they don't include the proprietary plug.

    The noise canceling hardware is certainly onboard though...I bet if I were able to source out the newer plug I could solder it to the mainboard and it would work just fine..

    Ahh whatever, I don't even care that much. My passive earbuds work great anyway.
     
  18. SMAA

    SMAA Newbie

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    did you solve your problem ?
    i just bought a VPCZ1390X and they came with the same headphones, they have a notch and wont fit in

    regards
    SMAA
     

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