Some questions on the Alienware 17R1 1070 upgrade

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  1. uugui shi

    uugui shi Notebook Consultant

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    okay guys it works, it was set to automatically output in 4K which, I guess, is not supported
     
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    kingofswag187 Notebook Deity

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    The ranger's HDMI port can handle 4k30 afaik.
     
  3. uugui shi

    uugui shi Notebook Consultant

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    I had just a short time to test this out today so as soon as I saw it was fixed I disconnected it, I will try to set 4K 30Hz and see if it works later. Do you know if the display port has the same limit?
     
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    Update: I thought I'd make a quick review for future reference, for those who want to attempt this upgrade.
    Parts Bought:
    - INNOLUX N173HHE-G32 120Hz gsync 17.3" 8-bit Matte Display
    - EDP Cable part number DC02C004000 0N392W N392W
    - All Copper 5 Pipes GPU Heatsink
    - "Dell" GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 from Taobao (Reseller speaks decent english and can guide you through the process and even mod the .INF file for you, eventhough I did everything myself, price is good compared to ebay)

    INSTALLATION PROCESS
    I have already talked about the display upgrade process in a previous message so I'll move to the GPU.

    Upgrade process with a EDP display installed is pretty straight forward:
    - set BIOS in full UEFI (PEG mode is enabled automatically when you install an EDP display)
    - uninstall all GPU drivers (I've used Display Driver Uninstaller) and shutdown
    - install the new GPU and heatsink, mine had thermal paste already applied on it so I went with that.
    - download drivers from NVIDIA's website
    - if you start the installation it will ask you where to extract the files required choose a location and when the installation fails don't close it or it will delete all the extracted files, instead make a copy of the extracted folder and work on that to mod the .inf file (I suggest this guide)
    - when you are done modding the file you need to restart windows and disable driver signed driver enforcement (quick guide here)
    - now install the drivers using the .exe in the folder you copied and it should work, windows may alert you during the final steps that the driver is not signed just tell it to continue anyway and you should be good. If it doesn't work it means that you have not modded the inf correctly remember to put your IDs in all the different sections.
    - you should be all set!

    REVIEW
    It works as if this laptop was shipped with it! I've read alot of threads on here where people had all sorts of problems (temperature problems, power problems, fps and performance drops, ports not working) I've had none of that so far, using the thermal paste already on the heatsink I'm getting 45C idle and it doesn't go above 71C under full usage which is good for me. My i7 4800MQ works the same as it did when I had the 770M installed so I don't feel like I need to upgrade it just yet.

    When it comes to in game perfomance here's some tests:
    - The Witcher 3 - 1080p - everything Maxed and with NVidia Hairworks enabled - 60 to 70 fps
    - Shadow of War - 1080p - everything set to max - 60 to 80 fps with 60 being the lowest point rarely encountered.
    - Shadow of War - 4K - everything set to max - 22 to 30 fps with 20 being the lowest point .
    - Sea of Thieves - 1080p - Maxed - 60 to 120fps depending on where on the map you are.
    - Assassin's Creed Unity - 1080p - Maxed - always above 60fps.
    - Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy - 1080p - Maxed - rock solid 120fps, not a demanding game but a good one to try this 120Hz panel with an 120fps game with incredible colors.
    - Metro Exodus - this is a strange one, I've tried the benchmark tool that comes with the game and most of the times I couldn't even get it to start, when I did I got the results in the image below, in game I get 90fps max with ultra settings just don't enable RTX or it will drop you to 22 fps
    - Devil May Cry 5 - 1080p - Maxed - up to 120fps
    - Sekiro - 1080p - Maxed - never below 60fps
    - Rage 2 - 1080p - Maxed - around 70 fps (no nvidia driver update installed)
    - Wolfenstein 2 - 1080p - Maxed - from 80 to 200fps usually around 120-144 fps
    - Final Fantasy XV - 1080p - Maxed - from 30 to 60 usually around 45 fps Benchmark test below (very good benchmark for nvidia cards)

    I don't usually use benchmark tools and benchmark my hardware through normal use, but I can do some classic benchmarks if someone needs them, I've got more games to test but this is all I've managed until now, I may update it later with other games (suggestions accepted).

    This GPU has HDR support so if you connect it to an HDR panel it will work with the games that support it, I've tried Sea of Thieves only.
    After the most recent driver update the 10xx series "supports" RTX, that is if you like playing at 20 fps.
    I've also made an album with all the pictures I took during the different steps of this upgrade process, you can find it here: https://imgur.com/a/XmCXenQ
    I don't know if sharing my modded inf file can help others, if so I'll upload it (driver installed version 430.39).
    Even if both the display and the GPU support G-Sync it is not enabled and probably cannot be enabled in any way.
    I still haven't tested overclocking, I don't know if I will.
    My next upgrade will probably be on the RAM, I'll be upgrading to 32GB 2133Mhz HyperX, I need more RAM to use programs like Adobe After Effects and faster memory should also give me some "free" fps in game.

    Once again I would like to thank all the people that helped me. If anyone has any questions I'll be glad to answer them to the best of my knowledge.
     

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  5. uugui shi

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    So this Dynamic Super Resolution popped up out of nowhere, do you guys know why? I know what it is for, but is it any useful?
     

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    Try it and see if you like it. I dont personally use it much, maybe for older games if I want to increase resolution but otherwise I stick to 1080p for everything
     
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    it's good to test games in 4K without having to go in the other room and connect it to my TV but that's about as useful as it gets
     
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    +rep great progress and solid upgrade :vbthumbsup:, with Win7 phasing out this could be a great machine that can max out all the games until now effortlessly (have a local collection of the best tittles dating back to 2010:))

    I have a question about this GTX 1070 Chipset. Is it the P5000 Quadro board (Note the Samsung Memory) with 1070 core transplant or Dell ? Buying those Aetina green boards are hit and miss due to the VRM quality plus Eurocom was selling those gimped 1070s as well, asking because I want to upgrade with a proper 3.0b solution without dremel. @Raidriar mentioned these a couple of times. Plus which vBIOS are you using, the MSI 1070 vBIOS works great on the Zotac MXM 1070 GPU.

    And I believe you sanded down and polished the 5-Pipe HS as well ? From the looks of those HS (Which I bought for both CPU and GPU) under the light you can see a disturbance in reflection which means the surface is not even, plus I cannot get them work with my machine, not fitting properly as you can read from that thread.

    Thanks.
     
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    As far as I know it is a quadro P5000 board with the 1070 N17E-G2-A1 core and 8 GB of VRAM removed (the P5000 comes with 16GB of GDDR5), 90% sure.
    I have not made any modifications on the vbios but I can give you the info I can gather on what is on this card.
    I also haven't made any modifications to the heatsink (I only have the GPU one), the fitting is tight you have to push hard to close the laptop back, but once you do it fits and you can screw everything back.
     
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    Hello everyone from Italy,
    this is my first post after reading for a while and I'm sorry for my bad english. Thanks to all of you, I learned a lot to constantly update my alienware 17R1. Now my configuration is: Bios at 14+; CPU 4930mx; RAM Hyper x 16Gb, display LTN173HT02-D02 and Nvidia Gtx1070 (Dell version).
    Last weekend, after modded the Lcd back cover, I tried to install the new Innolux N173HHE-G32 display. The problem is that the screen works very well during the boot and with Windows 10, while when I install the Nvidia drivers, the screen doesn't work, it goes black. If you uninstall the Nvidia driver, the screen turns on. To uninstall the Nvidia drivers I used an external monitor connected via HDMI. What can I do now? Thanks in advance
     
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