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Samsung Series 9 - Windows 8

Discussion in 'Samsung' started by usb7, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. usb7

    usb7 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Windows 8.1 Driver Update
    After a clean installation of Windows 8.1, the only drivers I needed to install were:
    • Touchpad Driver_11.7.19.9 (for trackpad gesture support)
    • Settings_2.2.0.15 (for Fn key support e.g. brightness)
    I found these drivers with SW Update under Windows 8.1 drivers for newer Samsung models. Everything else seems to work just fine!

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    Original Post
    With Windows 8 RTM released to MSDN today, I thought I would create this thread for people who want to run it on our beautiful ultrabooks.

    So I have Windows 8 running pretty well on my 15" (NP900X4C-A01US), here are the drivers I've installed:

    Samsung Windows 8 Drivers Installer!
    http://orcaservice.samsungmobile.com/SWUpdate.aspx

    Touchpad (Version 10.7.17.5)
    http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.c...1207/20120714124121110/Touchpad_10.7.17.5.ZIP

    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3498&DwnldID=21180&keyword="4000"eng

    Samsung Easy Settings Software (To get Fn keys working)
    http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.c...7/20120706162201285/Easy_Settings_1.1.1.4.ZIP
    You'll have to rename setup.exe to setup2.exe to install it.

    Here's the link to Samsung's official support page for drivers. Windows 8 drivers will be updated here.
    Support - Notebooks NP900X4C | Samsung Laptops

    Anyone else install Windows 8 and recommend installing other drivers?

    On a finally note, enjoy Windows 8 and go internz2012!

    -Frank
     
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  2. hfm

    hfm Notebook Virtuoso

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    Who's internz2012? I know completely off topic. :)
     
  3. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why in the world would I install that turd of an OS on my "beautiful ultrabook"?
     
  4. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I wouldn't put it quite so bluntly but the Windows development cycle during this century runs as: Me > XP > Vista (aka "Me 2") > 7 > 8 (which I suspect will become known as "Me 3"). It's a version where Microsoft put in a lot of new ideas. I haven't seen any "must have" features on the list so I'm envisaging waiting until Windows 9 wherein the worst of the new features will have got buried and the bugs relating to the useful new features fixed.

    John
     
  5. dn00

    dn00 Notebook Consultant

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    Why is it a turd of an OS? I'm getting 30 extra minutes of battery life and the metro/tablet interface is replaced by a third party start menu program. It's basically a more efficient windows 7 for me.
     
  6. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    Because it is unsuitable for something like 99.9% of current Windows computers in use, which are laptops or desktops. Sure, I can make it usable using third-party add-ons, but somehow I have this quaint idea that when I get an OS, it should be able to perform the fundamental functions properly and efficiently out of the box, without me having to run out and buy stuff to make it usable. Finally, there is no significant difference in "efficiency" between Win7 and Win8. Switch off all visual effects in Win7, and you'll have exactly the same behavior as in Win8. The difference is, in Win7, I have a choice.
     
  7. Chari Aela

    Chari Aela Newbie

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    While being in danger of completely derailing this thread, have you actually tried the latest releases of Windows 8? Paired with the new Office 2013 preview and the host of new shortcuts built into the operating system, I actually manage to get things done more quickly than I do in Windows 7, and this is on a multi-monitor desktop with just a regular old keyboard and mouse.

    Out of curiosity, what shortcomings do you have in mind when you say that Win8 is unable to perform fundamental functions properly?

    On topic, to those of you who have installed the Windows 8 RTM on your Samsung Series 9, how are you finding the multitouch gesture support with the regular OEM drivers that are currently available?
     
  8. usb7

    usb7 Notebook Enthusiast

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    interz2012 is a community of summer interns that all have this laptop :p

    I disagree with almost all of this.

    For most of the mouse and keyboard computers out there currently, people will mainly stay in the Windows 8 Desktop, which is like Windows 7 with enhancements. Although, the Modern Side is definitely aimed at the touch capable market, using it with a trackpad or mouse isn't a bad experience.

    Windows 8 is more efficient than Windows 7. It has a faster boot time and uses less system resources, there's no denying that.

    A lot of the decisions made with Windows 8 help prepare it for the future. Implementing touch (heck OS X barely has any touch support), promoting sandboxed Metro (fine... Windows 8 UI Style) Apps that do not degrade the Windows experience over time, and more all will help Windows in the long run.

    Even having the Start Menu removed has scientific and experimental reasons. Read Evolving the Start menu - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs followed by Designing the Start screen - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs. In fact many of the changes in Windows 8 are discussed in detail here by the Windows Engineering team: Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs.

    For me the gesture of swiping from the right end brings up the charms bar, swiping from the left end is equivalent to windows-tab, and swiping down from the top brings up menus in metro apps.
     
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    dblo Notebook Enthusiast

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    I had the same concerns about win8 being too much for touchscreen users and not for regular PCs - until I actually got a hands-on experience on a regular laptop. Basically, the Metro UI comes up instead of your Start Menu, and when it is minimized, you have your regular windows interface. I didn't spend too much time with it, but I can see how the Metro UI can be customized to be more efficient than the Start Menu.
     
  10. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just to clarify, I decided that the particular discussion on the merits or lack thereof of Win8 is off-topic for this thread and this forum, so I will refrain from responding any further here, despite the fact that I disagree with the points the OP brought up above.
     
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    Many thanks for the tip renaming the setup.exe to setup2.exe to get the Samsung Easy Settings Software installed. I bought a 900X3C this weekend and the missing F-key stuff was quite tricky. Can you tell me if the "Open Lid" to restart from sleep is working for you? In my case nothing happens and I need to start it manually via the Power button.
    Cheers,
    Stefan
     
  12. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    The X3C is probably expecting the Intel Rapid Start Technology to be installed and working. This replaces the Windows sleep and hibernation. Did you try installing it?

    John
     
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    That's probably a valid point :)

    So far I only installed the touch pad drivers and the easy settings software. I will create a new restore point later and give the drivers a shot. Are we talking about the Rapid Start Technology driver only or is there anything else required?

    Update:
    I downloaded the Windows 7 driver and tried to install it but it failed because my computer does not meet the minimum requirement. I found a pdf file from Microsoft describing the steps to setup another partition required for the Rapid Start stuff but one of the last steps failed (set id).

    What makes you believe that the Rapid Start Technology is actually the one responsible for the lid open action? The Lid Open action is (for me) correctly setup in the Easy Settings menu... but still not working ;-(

    Stefan
     
  14. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    See the separate thread about the Intel Rapid Start Technology. Yesterday I found the program that creates the hibernation partition. I'm less sure what makes it run but it may be enabling IRST in Easy Settings.

    My hypothesis about lid opening action being linked to IRST is speculation, but IRST clearly includes support at the system firmware level because part of the process works outside of Windows.

    John
     
  15. ghd_2858

    ghd_2858 Newbie

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    Are you able to provide me/us the link to the program that creates the hibernation partition? I tried the manual approach and failed (due to the GRT partition type)....
    Do you know the program providing the files you mentioned? In this case I would try to install it...
     
  16. John Ratsey

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    Did you read this post? I think that folder is created during the Easy Settings installation.

    John
     
  17. ghd_2858

    ghd_2858 Newbie

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    Found your post... The folder is not located on my machine (Win 8 Pro 64Bit) and I installed the Windows 7 version of the Easy Settings application via the setup2.exe trick. I read a number of posts and my understanding is actually that the Rapid Start app is responsible for a more efficient sleep but not necessary for the open lid part. I could be wrong, who knows. Best guess, the problem will be fixed with the upcoming Win 8 driver / probably a new BIOS. I would really like to know if somebody already managed to get the open lid feature working on a start from scratch Windows 8 install for a 900x3/4c laptop...
     
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    Just a general comment about Windows 8. I installed it on my desktop with a 30" monitor attached to it and the 900X3A laptop and I am quite happy so far. It takes a while to learn all the useful shortcuts and get adopted to the changes they made. As soon you start to understand the concept behind the modified interface you will realize it is quite an improvement compared to Windows 95 to 7. The metro starting page is more like an upgraded start menu with additional functionality attached to it. Some of the tiles are actually quite useful and I hope that the store will provide even more (free) apps in the future. I can't understand the hype about the missing option to start the desktop directly after startup. Who the heck is viewing the desktop without using applications??? As soon you start a typical app like Internet Explorer (changed the behavior to display it on the desktop via Internet Options) or Outlook you are back on the desktop. Personally I would recommend to tidy-up the Startmenu providing access to apps not listed on the metro screen or attached to the taskbar. The fact that you can easily start programs via typing in the name of it in the metro interface without selecting anything and hit enter makes it much faster to use than the old style start menu. Again, just my opinion. I can't imagine going back to Windows 7 at this stage (still in use on my company machine). I agree there are no huge highlights convincing people to upgrade but I always prefer to have something new from time to time and Windows 7 looks quite old fashioned to me right now. I would really like to see some more support from Samsung regarding Windows 8 drivers at this stage. The Windows 7 drivers seems to be more or less working but some small issues still needs to be sorted out (open lid resume from sleep feature not working for me, also cannot install Intel Quick Start app (because of the GRT formatted SSD?)) but none of them are showstopper. There is still one device unknown to the device manager but I wasn't able to figure out the impact so far. The only driver I would actually recommend to install is the one for the touchpad plus the Samsung Easy Settings software to get full access to the FN-keys.
     
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    What's really not working?... I've installed Windows 8 yesterday and if I close the lid the computer sleeps and when I open it it doesn't resume alone, but just a push on the power button and it resumes just where I've left it...
     
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    Running Win 8 Enterprise x64 RTM on NP900X4B-A02US.

    * Install runs with setup2.exe trick, cool, thanks!
    * Icon for Easy Settings appears on Win 8 Start menu, great
    * Click icon, get UAC prompt, typical annoying Win behavior, fine, click OK
    * App never launches. Nothing happens after UAC.
    * Easy Display Manager (32 bit) and Easy Speed Up Manager (32 bit) show up in Task Manager Processes, but I can't interact with them or any of their friends.

    Any ideas?
     

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