Ryzen Controller

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  1. Elbrin

    Elbrin Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am not sure if this post is OK in the Asus forum or if it should be in software. I am posting/asking here because I think there are quite a few Asus laptops being built with the Ryzen mobile chip.

    The question I have is: are people using Ryzen Controller to tweak Asus laptops, and if so what are your thoughts and opinions regarding the app?

    Any and all info is greatly appreciated. My Scar 15 arrived yesterday and I am trying to figure out the best way to tune it. My first task is to obviously re-install Windows Pro and do a clean, non-bloated install.

    Thanks again. Be well.
     
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  3. Elbrin

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    @Patrck_744 I just saw APUTU last night but have night tried it yet. I di try Ryzen Controller and it would not work. It looked like at its core, Ryzen Controller is using Ryzen Adjust (ryzenadj). It kept failing to apply the changes. My Scar 15 has the newer Ryzen 9 5900HX so I am wondering if the development teams have not yet caught up to the newer chip architecture. For giggles, I even tried Ryzen Master which is the desktop CPU utility. My expectations were low so when it did not recognize my chip I was not upset.

    In the short term, I have gone into the registry and set the power attribute so I could disable Power Boost in the Advance Power Plan tab of Windows. Tonight perhaps I can try the APU Tunner.

    Be well.
     
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  5. Elbrin

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    @kill4l Maybe that is why I had no luck. I had Armory Crate set to something other than Manual. I think I was using Performance. Tonight I might give Ryzen Controller another try but make sure Armory Crate is Manual.

    Be well.
     
  6. Elbrin

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    Well. I think I discovered the problem. I changed Armory Crate profiles and still no luck. I was trying to use Ryzen Controller Version 2.5.4. I decided to try and downgrade to the previous version. Downloaded and installed version 2.5.3 and I am not seeing an error message. Something in Version 2.5.4 does not agree with my Strix Scar.
     
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    Update:

    I started getting errors even with Version 2.5.3. The errors popped up when I tried to adjust video settings.

    @kill4l Would you mind sharing your profile? Are you also using Ryzen Controller to adjust GPU or VRM values?

    Thanks. Be well.
     
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    i use only CPU tab, cuz it gives the most performance. i set up all the sliders to the maximum. only the temp slider i put it around 98 (but never reached more than 85 )
     
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    How did you get this score? How much power does the CPU consume? Did you hit a silicon lottery?
     
  10. Elbrin

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    Update:

    OK folks here we go. From what I can tell, it appears that both Ryzen Controller and AMD APU Tuning Utility are wrappers for Ryzenadj. At their cores, it appears that both utilities are just GUI's and the heavy lifting is being done by ryzenadj. Regarding compatibility and what settings can be changed, I have found the following table from the ryzenadj GitHub page:

    CPU Family Support Matrix
    • ✅ Supported
    • ☑ Supported, but not tested, help needed
    • ⚠ Supported, but no effect (some does at least change the PM Table reading)
    • ⛔ Not Supported
    Raven Picasso Dali Renoir Lucienne Cezanne
    stapm-limit ✅ ✅ ☑ ⚠ ⚠ ⚠
    fast-limit ✅ ✅ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    slow-limit ✅ ✅ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    slow-time ✅ ✅ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    stapm-time ✅ ✅ ☑ ⚠ ⚠ ⚠
    tctl-temp ✅ ✅ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    vrm-current ✅ ☑ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    vrmsoc-current ✅ ☑ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    vrmmax-current ✅ ☑ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    vrmsocmax-current ✅ ☑ ☑ ✅ ✅ ✅
    psi0-current ✅ ☑ ☑ ⚠ ☑ ☑
    psi0soc-current ✅ ☑ ☑ ⚠ ☑ ☑
    max-socclk-frequency ☑ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    min-socclk-frequency ☑ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    max-fclk-frequency ✅ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    min-fclk-frequency ✅ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    max-vcn ☑ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    min-vcn ☑ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    max-lclk ☑ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    min-lclk ☑ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    max-gfxclk ⚠ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    min-gfxclk ⚠ ☑ ☑ ⛔ ⛔ ⛔
    prochot-deassertion-ramp ☑ ☑ ☑ ✅ ☑ ✅
    apu-skin-temp ⛔ ⛔ ⛔ ⚠ ☑ ⚠
    dgpu-skin-temp ⛔ ⛔ ⛔ ⚠ ☑ ⚠
    apu-slow-limit ⛔ ⛔ ⛔ ⚠ ☑ ⚠
    skin-temp-limit ⛔ ⛔ ⛔ ⚠ ☑ ⚠
    power-saving ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅
    max-performance ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅


    Sorry about the bad formatting. I will include the link to the page as well.

    https://github.com/FlyGoat/RyzenAdj/wiki/Supported-Models#cpu-family-support-matrix

    The 2021 Strix Scar uses the Cezanne CPU so for now it looks like we can adjust the CPU but not either the dedicated GPU or the onboard Vega (iGPU).

    Be well. Enjoy the weekend.
     
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