Ray tracing another BS

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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Yeah, it starts to be fast enough for 4K but too slow for higher resolutions. Hence they have to go for new things such as improve rendering quality (to be able to continue earn money). No point for Nvidia to push for much higher old fashion graphics performance as it is now with AMD.
     
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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm talking about the planar reflections on the windows, mirrors, floor, and water in the opening level. It's an expensive way to do real-time reflections (albeit not as expensive as ray tracing), and it can't account for second order reflections (reflections of reflections), but it still looks good.
     
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    Not interested in Ray tracing.
     
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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    Eh, it's early days yet. Ray tracing is the future, just like programmable shaders were the future back in 2001.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's all a bunch'a hype from hucksters to separate cash from suckers.

    They didn't have a good story to sell with normal performance upgrades, which were already in a traditional cycle of delivering higher performance at the same price points for many generations.

    After that sweet "gold rush" of mining suckers that would pay "anything" to get in on the action Nvidia needed to come up with another kind of sucker bait to justify bumping up their MSRP to the "mining levels" of profit, so they could join in on the action directly to their endless pool of end user suckers.

    DXR as treated by AMD, professional level GPU's for content creation, and participating in the DX12 DXR effort is how Nvidia could have treated this, and could have held back the wide delivery of RT / Tensor cores until it was actually cost effective, but that would negate that sucker bait profit they could grab right now.

    Technical advances shouldn't require draining the blood of your customers. And, we shouldn't encourage this kind of behavior from vendors.

    If you are a real Nvidia fan, buy the old inventory and ignore the RTX GPU's, as the Series 10 is enough for gaming, and costs 2x-3x less for adequate performance.

    Avoid getting sucked into the peer pressure "leading you around by the benchmark" behavior exhibited by most suckers with more money than sense.

    As a dedicated Nvidia fan, or just someone that needs a good / cheap Gaming GPU, help Nvidia out of their inventory backlog black hole of despair by buying Series 10 hardware, or save even more money and buy a nice used GPU for pennies on the dollar as the mining craze continues to cause miners to fold their operations and liquidate their assets.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...l-transformation.812591/page-47#post-10831411

    There is no reason to buy or support RTX GPU's as they are currently released and priced. All 3 of these videos do a good job putting the RTX GPU pricing into stark contrast against past releases, and show what these overpriced ripoff's should cost:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-109#post-10831556
     
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    My perspective may be incorrect, however RTX is just 10XX expanded with more TDP, slightly more CUDA cores, and slightly faster memory. That alone doesnt merit the huge price tag, so they threw in Ray tracing and renamed GTX to RTX to make it seem unique.

    Not really interested in playing that game with nvidia but hopefully when I have more money then sense I can participate in those kind of transactions.
     
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    Don’t care about your opinion, been posted thousands of times already. Ray tracing is and has always been the future, whether RTX succeeds in the long run is irrelevant.

    The title of this thread is “ray tracing is BS” (which is a BS statement), not “RTX is BS”.
     
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    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Bigger die + more and better components (power delivery, cooling etc) vs. previous gen has its price. And parts (components) ain’t cheaper than last year. Or when Pascal was released.
     
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    I doubt that it is true at all, certainly in the short run 5-10 years, and probably in the long run, it's a waste of computing power for no good reason.

    Ray-tracing is over the top cost prohibitive to add even the mere sparkle of raytracing through RTX.

    Nvidia has blown it already by letting that cat out of the bag too early. RT costs way too much.

    The compute requirements to replace what is working just fine are too large, and the current "ginger bread" effect of tacking on a "springling" of RT effects is a joke.

    Full coverage RT isn't what's on offer - that's ******** thinking right there if you think it is, what's on offer is the RTX "bag of magic beans" that won't grow anything of use out of the pile of ******** it's planted in.
     
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    Ray tracing is the next frontier. Some very smart people in the industry, like Carmack and Sweeney, have been saying this for many years. Ray tracing will eventually win out. It’s not a matter of if, but when.
     
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