Quadro RTX 3000 performance on gaming and VR

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  1. Uggy_Duggy

    Uggy_Duggy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello, guys!

    I hope I'm posting this thread in the most adequate part of the forum.
    I'd be very thankful if someone could give me an insight into the kind of real-world performance one could expect from a Quadro RTX 3000 (mobile), specifically in VR and gaming in general.

    I've been considering one of the new HP ZBooks 15 G6, but I would need to know how its Quadro RTX 3000 would perform compared to, say, the corresponding RTX 2060. I've seen benchmarks in which it performs on par, but often slower (and sometimes significantly so). On the other hand, I wonder if those benchs were made making use of the '3D App - Game Development' that supposedly Quadro drivers have and that effectively should make them work like their similar GeForce siblings.

    I understand this is sort of a specific query but I'll take every bit of information you may have. Thanks in advance!
     
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    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    Notebookcheck is a pretty decent site to look at these types of comparative analysis. It looks like it's about 7% slower than an RTX 2060 Notebook (on average, of course individual discrete benchmarks may tell different stories):

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-RTX-3000-Laptop-Graphics-Card.423876.0.html

    As far as non-RT workloads, it looks about on par with a 1660Ti.. maybe just a hair slower (2%)

    One thing I will say, if you are NOT a 3D/ML creative professional and don't plan on doing any content creation or CUDA or any other "work" on it, I would not get this and go for something much cheaper with a GeForce level card. Quadro metal commands a price premium for the software/driver support for professionals.

    You will fare WAY better and spend less money if gaming is your primary concern getting like an RTX 2070/2080 laptop, and probably spending less money than $3K. Not to mention for just straight up 3D modeling work, I've seen people do amazing things for 3D content creation with low-mid tier GeForce GPUs. You'd have to have a very specific need to go Quadro IMO.

    Maybe this? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1512532-REG/msi_p65_creator_253_p65_creator_i7_8750_32gb.html

    Unless you're getting that HP for a STEAL.
     
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    Uggy_Duggy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks a lot for your thoroughly detailed answer!

    I'd actually had a look at Notebookcheck, that's where I got my first figures for this card; I agree with you, their database works well for this kind of stuff. The thing with this type of workstation hardware is that it caters to such a niche market that often it gets difficult to assess real-world usage in some scenarios; hence my posting here, hoping to find some direct experience with the card or laptop.

    As a matter of fact, despite me asking for gaming/VR performance, I plan to do very little gaming in my next laptop. I'm an architect and archviz professional and I work chiefly with Unreal Engine for images/animations/interactive/VR presentations, and so, professionally, I need gaming performance (ironic, isn't it? :D) I have a fairly powerful desktop rig with a GTX 1080 for most of the work but would need a more mobile machine to be able to develop and present realtime graphics and VR on-the-go.

    It just happens that for the past 12 years my mobile PCs have been solely Dell Precision workstations. And I have to admit that I've grown too accostumed not only to a certain level of quality in construction, but also the extra connectivity, reliability and premium warranty service - not to mention some workstation gimmicks like Smart Card reader, HDD removable trays, numeric keypad and the like (stuff that at first I thought I'd never use). And although I'm by no means an aesthetics-snob in what concerns computers, some gaming machines really do stand out a little bit *too much* in a meeting room full of architects, designers and real estate developers... ;)

    That MSI you suggested does look the part though! And nice specs too. Unfortunately it seems that in my country I'll have to fork out north of 2600€ (~ US$2900) for a similarly specced machine (Max-Q variant actually). I can get the ZBook 15 G6 for around 2700€ (~ US$3000) with similar 32GB RAM and 512GB SSD but with an i9-9880H (which would come in handy too). Mind you, the actual cost figures for me would be about 23% lower (since I'm buying this for my business and can write off VAT).

    Bottom line, I don't really need the Quadro and would be good wth a GeForce, but ideally I'd prefer a workstation class machine, even if it commands a small premium.

    Once again thank you for your suggestions! If you or anyone else have any other ideas, feel free to share.

    BTW, perhaps someone out there with a Precision 7740 and Quadro RTX 3000 that could share some feedback..?
     
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    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    If it's specifically for VR you still might be better off with a faster GeForce RTX GPU to keep frame rates up. Stuttering and low frame rate in VR can make some people nauseous. Good luck on your hunt, it sounds like you pretty much know what you're looking for. :)
     
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    Uggy_Duggy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks! And you're absolutely right about VR. It's tricky and one of the reasons that's been keeping me on the fence about the ZBook, given its price tag.

    I might as well follow your suggestion and get a gaming machine, either a powerhouse, or something well-balanced if I find a really good deal.
     
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