Precision 7750/7550 release date?

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  1. Aaron44126

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    I have recorded that the Precision 7740 base model was $1,509 at launch on the Dell U.S. website.
     
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    Precision 3550 and Precision 5550 just went up for sale.
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...bile-workstation/spd/precision-15-3550-laptop
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...bile-workstation/spd/precision-15-5550-laptop

    Tidbits (5550):
    * Precision 5550 does not have Xeon options. (I always wondered why they were there since the 5000-series systems have not been able to use ECC memory.)
    * The Quadro GPU that is available is the Quadro T1000. This was previously available in the Precision 7540. So, I guess that even the low-end Quadros are not getting a refresh this year.
    * You are able to configure the system with two NVMe drives... Was that possible before?
    * There are "single pointing" and "dual pointing" options for the keyboard/palmrest, so maybe the trackpoint isn't dead after all.
    * Looks like you're expected to use one of the USB-C ports for power now. Unlike a MacBook, you have to plug into a specific port on the left side.
     
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    Dell Precision 7X50 series was just formally announced. I'm only seeing news reports and I am still trying to find the Dell announcement. I will follow up shortly with some thoughts once I digest what is out there.
    https://wccftech.com/dell-unleashes...ered-by-nvidia-quadro-rtx-gpu-and-intel-cpus/
    https://www.neowin.net/news/dells-new-precision-mobile-workstations-are-smaller-and-more-powerful/

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    Dell has an article here but the new 7000-series systems are not mentioned.
    https://corporate.delltechnologies....ps-professionals-stay-productive-anywhere.htm

    Precision 7X50 launch date is May 28.
    Precision 7570 = $1709
    Precision 7770 = $1999
    Those prices do seem high compared to past launches, and given the limited nature of the upgrade over the previous generation. However, we still do not know the specs of the base model.

    Graphics tops out at RTX 5000.

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    Spec sheets.
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/Precision7550_data_sheet.jpg
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/Precision7750_data_sheet.JPG
     
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    Digesting.

    * 7550 launches May 28, 7750 launches June 6.
    * Dell says that they are "20% smaller" than the previous generation, which seems like a lot more of a decrease than the pictures show.
    * The spec sheets show Windows 10 Home as an option, which is odd.
    * Base CPU is i5-10400H (four cores), base RAM is 8 GB, and it looks like you can get the system with no dGPU. 1080p display / 128GB NVMe drive. So... The base model $2,000 system (7750) appears to be pretty low-spec. I wonder if this price includes Dell's "starting discount" or not.
    * No AMD dGPU options... NVIDIA only. You can still get the Quadro T1000 card, but T2000 is gone?
    * HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.4 (not a surprise)
    * 7550 has a UHD HDR600 display option. 7750 gets HDR400.
    * All systems get the aluminum lid... Carbon fiber is gone? (Good.)
    * It doesn't look like you can install any 2.5" SATA drives. M.2 only.

    @Dell-Mano_G Are you available for questions?
     
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    Hmm. Not really worth the upgrade from the 7540/7740 if specs alone are considered, given there is little difference between Coffee/Comet Lake (the usual Intel rebrand). The Quadro GPUs from last year already had the higher core counts of the RTX 2070/2080 SUPERs (Quadro RTX 5000 and GeForce RTX 2080 Super both have 3072 CUDA cores), and the lack of a rebrand makes sense.

    It's also interesting that the notebook Xeons have been rebranded from E to W, specifiying the core count bump. More marketing tactics here.

    Once again, the Precisions will only get interesting when Dell puts Ryzens in them.
     
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    Pity there is no Ice Lake H-series which I think would put Intel squarely on top (in terms of performance... maybe not energy efficiency).
    TIger Lake H CPUs in the next generation should be interesting (if that actually happens).
     
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    What is the difference in performance between Quadro RTX 3000, 4000 and 5000? I could not find a good review.
     
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    You can see the specs of these cards at the TechPowerUp GPU database. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/
    Basically, multiply the clock speed and CUDA core count to get a performance metric and then compare that between the cards for their relative performance.

    But also note that power limitations will limit the performance of the higher end cards. In the 7740, Quadro RTX 4000 and RTX 5000 are both capped at 110W. This drives the clock speed down on the RTX 5000 (it can't hit the maximum clock speed because it is constantly power throttling). Benchmarks show that it performs only around 5% better than the RTX 4000. That's not a big difference for the $1000-ish extra that it costs. I wouldn't suggest getting it unless you need the extra vRAM or tensor cores.

    On the 7540 the difference is even more stark as both RTX 4000 and RTX 5000 are capped at 80W.

    I imagine that the situation will be basically the same with these new 7X50 systems but we won't know for sure until people get their hands on them.
     
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    These specs make me happy. My Precision 7730 is still looking pretty state of the art. If Dell ever made a PCIe 4.0 / Ryzen Pro / Ampere workstation notebook though, I think many of us would all just say one thing: take my money. But please, restore the dedicated PgUp / PgDn keys - workstation power users love those things.
     
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