Precision 7530 & Precision 7730 owner's thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by Aaron44126, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Eric Vasilik

    Eric Vasilik Notebook Enthusiast

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    By the way, thanks for the advice so far, this forum has been a great resource for me.

    I currently own a 7520 without a dedicated GPU. It runs totally silent for me unless I push the CPU. In fact, I don't think the fans run at all most of the time! Or, at least I can't detect them running.

    I was wondering if getting a 7730 with a P3200 would cause the fans to run all the time (albeit, at low speed), even when there is no significant graphics demand?

    Also, how does graphics switching actually work? Does the system detect a high graphics load and switch to the dedicated card? Can I turn off the dedicated card, and effectively have an experience as though there were none installed? Does the system decided dynamically which operations benefit from the dedicated card and use it sometimes, or is it an all or nothing kinda thing?

    - Eric
     
  2. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    That's exactly how it works. The OS detects particular draw calls that it offloads to the discrete GPU, which the latter runs, and generates frames, which are then sent back to the integrated GPU to be displayed.
     
  3. SvenC

    SvenC Notebook Evangelist

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    In addition: you can force a GPU as well. nvidia adds that to the context menu when you right click an application.
    IIRC newer versions of Win 10 can do that without dGPU apps/extensions.
     
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  4. Aaron44126

    Aaron44126 Notebook Prophet

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    You mostly have it figured out. Actually, the NVIDIA graphics driver "decides" whether a particular app should be rendered using the NVIDIA GPU or the Intel GPU. It has built-in profiles for common apps and games, included with the drivers. You can override this behavior in the NVIDIA control panel, selecting to default all programs to the Intel or NVIDIA GPU, or selecting which GPU to use on an individual per-program basis. Windows 10 also added settings for this same stuff in the "Settings" app recently.

    When the NVIDIA GPU is used for rendering, the Intel GPU is still used for display; content rendered by the NVIDIA GPU is transferred to the Intel GPU's framebuffer to be displayed on the screen.

    You can select to default all apps to the Intel GPU and the NVIDIA GPU will be powered down most of the time. Still, individual programs can override the settings in the NVIDIA control panel and decide for themselves which GPU to render on, and that may cause the NVIDIA GPU to power up. Also, some functions (i.e. NVIDIA CUDA) can only be run on the NVIDIA GPU. The only way to be sure that the NVIDIA GPU never powers up is to disable it in Device Manager.
     
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  5. archmark

    archmark Notebook Guru

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    Hi,
    Waiting to get my new 7730 i'm searching for an optimal ssd to store data so maybe a 1tb i've found that the samsung ssd 970 M.2 nvme is a overheating so which one would be good for storage capacity and maybe a good price and durability i'm not really interested in extreme performance.
    So i've found samsung 860 evo M.2 SATA III, Crucial MX500 M.2 SATA do you know any alternatives?
    Thanks,
    Mark
     
  6. DerMarkus

    DerMarkus Notebook Geek

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    I heave this configuration 7730+Evolution 970 1Tb. Temperature is in range 38-52C.
     
  7. V.Effalo

    V.Effalo Newbie

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    OK, did that deed and on booting, got a bluescreen diagnostic stating no storage media with an OS could be found. Mr. Dell wasn't happy. Checking with Mr. Google, some folks have noted similar behavior and the cure is to install newer Intel (R) Chipset SATA/PCIe RST Premium Controller drivers for Windows 10 x64. Is that my problem? I'm hesitant to proceed because Mr. (Ms.?) Dell says the drivers I have are the latest. However, I found some dated June 6, 2018 - later than the ones I have - Version 16.5.1.1030 (12.06.2018) - See: https://drp.su/en/devices/massstora...pcie-rst-premium-controller?os=windows-10-x64

    Can the Collective Wisdom offer more sage Advice?
     
  8. mrmogli

    mrmogli Newbie

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    Hi! After going through the 52 pages of comments (thank you for them, they offered me great input), I became a bit more hesitant if indeed the Precision is the computer for me.

    I'm an engineer and I work in research. I mainly use matlab / simulink and solidworks for simulation. Less usually my work also goes for a bit of machine learning and some video editing. But the simulation is the real deal, and where I spend most of my time.

    Given this, and since I need a new laptop to be able to work on the go, I actually chose the components before finding about the precision 7730.

    Xeon E-2176M + Quadro P5200 + 64 GB EEC RAM + dual *disk ssd + hdd*

    I wasn't really keen on the 17", as it makes it bigger than what I wanted, but I guess you can't have everything. Either substance or form factor.

    Basically the processor is for matlab and the gpu for solidworks.

    With all this said, some of you referred to the Quadros stating that Dell shipped the laptops with the low power version. Is this confirmed for the P5200 on the 7730?

    And without running away from the topic, do you see this as a good choice for me? Which alternatives to the 7730 do you see with the same perks?

    Thank you !
     
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  9. V.Effalo

    V.Effalo Newbie

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    To add some information, my current Intel (R) Chipset SATA/PCIe RST Premium Controller drivers for Windows 10 x64 are Version 16.0.2.1086, with a date of 2/7/2018 (July 2?) but the one I found: Version 16.5.1.1030 is dated 12.06.2018 (June 6?). Is it just that Dell used an older version and labelled it as newer? Trust Intel? Trust Dell? Thanks.
     
  10. slimpower

    slimpower Notebook Evangelist

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    Can I just ask please exactly where you put the paper card and are there any risks such as electric or heat/fire causing damage to other components? Did you put it over the two RAM slots beneath the keyboard or above the two RAM slots in the back? Does the paper cover anything else?

    I will probably put my name card there but am worried about damaging something or increasing risk of other issues.

    My keyboard is quite solid in the middle but feels (and sounds) less so towards the top (numbers starting from number 8 to the num lock key, including the backspace, home delete and end buttons).

    Thank you.
     
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