Power strip question. Ever

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  1. sew333

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    Hi. I bought pc with 8700K and 1080 ti and Corsair 750i And my question is. Getting more expensive power strip is a must or that normal power strip will enough? I dont have power outages or something like that. Maybe 1-2 outages during year ,thats all. Electricity building is from 2006 year. I am noob about electricity,sorry. All i can say is that ,lights and outlets are in different line.



    This simple power cord will be enough? I dont have cash for UPS actually.



    https://www.x-kom.pl/p/313624-listwa-zasilajaca-ever-classic-15m.html

    Ever CLASSIC 1,5m

    It 175 joules.

    Or costs more ( not have cash ) and take this?

    https://www.x-kom.pl/p/338499-listw...r-listwa-przeciwprzepieciowa-sb0701ad-fr.html
     
  2. John Ratsey

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    That power strip is rated at 2500W which is several times more than the load from the computer. The surge rating is for the size of the power surge that it can handle and this is independent of the load.

    John
     
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    @sew333,

    Have you considered an Uninterruptible Power Supply for your setup? A great way to protect your new PC.
     
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    For protecting against a surge, most likely. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector for additional reading.

    The surge should protect from a large power surge (like a lightning strike) or other electrical anomaly. However, it won't do anything if you're in the middle of something on your computer and the power goes out. In the case of lost power, it is possible a file system or some files on disk may become corrupt.

    In my honest opinion, the only true way to protect your system is to try to save and invest in a UPS.
     
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  7. Jarhead

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    UPS systems are nice, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a requirement. OP (and everyone else) should already have a decent backup plan (such as the 3-2-1 tactic), so assuming that a power outage actually corrupts the filesystem on the computer, it shouldn't be that big of an issue. At any rate, backups would be cheaper than most UPS systems :).

    For example, I have a UPS on my home server, though I don't have one on my desktop. And I don't use a UPS for my laptops because they already have built-in UPS systems (their battery).
     
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    As the saying goes, time = money. The $45 extra for a small UPS is worth the time of not having to recover from a power outage. And like you just mentioned you already have UPS (external and internal) on your equipment.

    I suppose to each his own, but the extra hour or two saved is worth it in my book.
     
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    Yeah, I guess it depends on how important you think your data is on your computer to protect it from power outages. My desktop mostly just has games and game data on it, so I don't really care if I lose that somehow.
     
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    That power strip is so tiny that, well, if any tinier, it would be zero joules. 175 joules is better called a potential fire - a most dangerous item in the room.

    Your computer will easily convert surges that are hundreds or thousand joules into rock stable, low DC voltages to safely power semiconductors. So what does that protector do?

    Notice: honest answers are made obvious by one layman simple fact. It always cites spec numbers.

    How many joules does that tens of times more expensive UPS provide? Also same near zero joules. It does not claim to protect hardware from surges or from low voltages (two completely different an unrelated anomalies).

    Low voltage causes no hardware damage to any properly designed electronics. None.

    Surges that might damage a computer will also damage any other appliance including refrigerator, LED & CFL bulbs, heat system, clocks, TV, ... everything. The fewer and informed consumers spend maybe 30 times less money per appliance) for one properly earthed 'whole house' protector.

    Some more numbers since honest recommendations must always provide numbers. Lightning is typically 20,000 amps. So a minimal protector is 50,000 amps. Only a 'whole house' solution with a low impedance (ie less than 3 meter) connection to earth provides effective protection. Even near zero joules in a power strip or UPS desperately need that protection.

    Don't take anyone's word for it. The information that anyone here (with recommendations or with questions) must provide: How many joules does each device (power strip, UPS) claim to absorb? 175 joules is so tiny that, to be any smaller, can only be zero. Just enough joules so that the most naive will recommend it as 100% protection. Neither that power strip nor UPS claim any effective protection - once we include numbers.

    Protection is always about where hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate. Outside. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.
     
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