Please rank the following Mobile GFX Cards

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  1. m1key

    m1key Newbie

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    Hi All,

    I'm sorry if this annoys anyone, but i've asked around and even gone through many notebook gfx benchmarks and I'm having trouble with getting the right info of which gfx card is better and by how much and whether its sufficient for medium settings/light gaming e.g. WoW/Starcraft 2.

    Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM
    - I know the GTX 485m and 6970m is one of the best, but what about the following?


    Dell XPS 17 - Nvidia GT555m 3GB DDR
    ASUS N73sv - Nvidia GT540m 1 GB DDR
    HP Envy 17 - ATI 6850m 1GB DDR5
    Acer Aspire 8950G - ATI 850gb 2 GB DDR3

    - I assume GT555 is better than GT540, But by how much and can current 2011 games be played on Medium settings, e.g. SC2 and WoW?

    - Is ATI 6850 better than GT555/540? I heard someone DDR5 gives the gfx card a performance boost.

    - I was thinking of the Sager NP8170 which is a Clevo P170hm with a ATI 6970, but I hate the fact that it has e huge AC Adapter, even the Alienware M17x AC Adapter is smaller.

    If possible, can someone answe the above stupid questions? =)

    Thanks,
    Mike
     
  2. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    6850M GDDR 5 > 6850M GDDR 3 > / ~= GT 555M > GT 540M

    1) GT 555M can handle Medium Settings on WoW on 1080p and Medium Settings at 900p with SC2 easily. The 540M won't have the juice to keep up a constant 30+ FPS at the same settings of SC 2 but maybe with WoW at 900p.

    2) The 6850M GDDR 5 is far superior to the 6850M GDDR 3 due the faster GDDR 5 VRAM.

    3) You need huge AC Adapters to power high-end cards. High end laptop gaming performance has to come at a price, and huge AC Adapter are needed to fuel the 75W TDP to run the 6970M, which is then used to power the monster into giving out massive FPS in games. :)

    In defense of #3. My Precision M6500 has a slim 210W AC Adapter that is not as bad as the stock 240W brick, which literally can be used as a brick for construction. ;) I think Alienware/Dell does sell those slim adapters that can still churn out the power needed to run the laptop fully.
     
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    m1key Newbie

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    Star Forge,

    Thanks for the quick Reply.

    I Guess the HP Envy 17 is my choice. I was going for the m17x or Sager, because the Envy in Australia is actually more expensive even with crap specs than the Sager with ati 6970, but the HP is more portable.

    So I guess Since the 6850 DDR5 is better than the GT555m, I can run SC2/WoW on Medium settings easily?
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    Yeah without any problems. However, I personally dislike the HP Envy line for several reasons though... Yet, I don't want to scare you off what is the best choice of the lot...
     
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    CleanSweep Notebook Geek

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    I am getting an M17X tomorrow. If you want enough power for games today and in a year, I would go with the M17X's 6970m.
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    Not everyone can afford one though. That is the biggest problem with Alienwares. Especially outside the US/Canada, many people in Euro/Oceania doesn't have the dough to get one in those specs from Alienware.
     
  7. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    even in central/south america, AWs are overpriced. The real deal with AW laptops in USA/Canada is calling in an AW rep and getting a decent discount off of the online price. I don't think this happens outside of USA/Canada :(
     
  8. kiseki_o_o

    kiseki_o_o Notebook Guru

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    I'm thinking of getting Envy 17 with its 1GB 6850M DDR5 too, but confused comparing it with XPS 17 + 3GB GT555M.

    Will the 1GB 6850M really be better than 3GB GT555M due to its DDR5?
    I see the GT555M ranks higher than 6850M in here.
    Comparison of Laptop Graphics Cards - Notebookcheck.net Tech
    I'm no expert in GPU, so I'm only looking at reviews and specs.
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    I don't trust Notebookcheck's rankings at all. They have really been showing their nVidia bias over the last few years and would skew the rankings to give nVidia the advantage over ATI, when in reality the actual nVidia card is inferior to the same ATI in real-life fair and balanced testing.

    The fact of the matter is this the 6850M is better than the 555M in many ways more than just the type of VRAM.

    The 6850M is essentially a slightly slower core-clocked rebadge of the 5850M, which itself is a slower-clocked version of the venerable 5870M. The 5870M rivals in performance with nVidia's GTX 460M and 560M GPU's. So the 6850M is more or less around a 460M in power, since the 460M in stock clocks at its time of release was still weaker than the 5870M.

    The GT 555M is often compared to power to ATI's Radeon 6770M and the 6770M is still weaker to a decent degree from the 5850M/6850M/5870M due to its 480SP over the 5850M's 800SP, but keeps itself powerful by pairing it with GDDR 5. The GT 555M has more efficiency with its 144 CUDA Cores, but its GDDR 3 192-bit pairing still makes it weaker than the 6770M's GDDR 5.

    Also despite having 144 CUDA Cores, it is still not enough to rival the 6850M's 800 SP. nVidia needs 192 CUDA Cores to balance the map, which they are using in the 460M and 560M. Hope that helps.
     
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    aintz Notebook Evangelist

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