P955ER throttling

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ahmad hendeh, Jun 7, 2018.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Form factor is always going to be a limitation in some form, desktops will always be able to dissipate more heat quieter for instance.
     
  2. ahmad hendeh

    ahmad hendeh Notebook Evangelist

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    Stop using that as an excuse
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    P955 is larger than the laptops that are constantly outperforming it. It should be the one outperforming the competition.

    The reasons the P955 suck has nothing to do with form factor . Just incompetence.
     
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    I'm talking in general terms here, they are all the same size bracket. Cost, chassis durability, serviceability and other factors come in on the precise form factor.
     
  4. ahmad hendeh

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    Is the 90W 1070MQ more expensive than the 80W one ? No, It's not.

    Is it too much to ask for the largest laptop in a certain market to not be the slowest one in this market ?


    The worst is that as much as you guys use the P955 form factor as an excuse for your incompetence. The hardware can probably take a 100-115W 1070.

    There is no excuse that this screenshot is not taking from an OC'ed 1070MQ in the P955
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    Different design decisions like having a 2.5" bay and making it easily user accessible.
     
  6. ahmad hendeh

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    The space taken by the 2.5' slot was exchanged with a larger battery, not extra cooling in the RB2018.



    The P955 can do this if it wasn't gutted(frimware wise). Design desicions have nothing to do with it, only incompetence.
     
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    If that's what you want to believe then feel free, you can ignore the price and what I have said above.
     
  8. ahmad hendeh

    ahmad hendeh Notebook Evangelist

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    I understand that you wanted to keep costs down. But there is a point where paying a bit more for superior experience is worth it.

    A 1599$(70$ increase) P955 with a 200/215W PSU and a 90W 1070MQ that doesn't throttle is miles ahead of the 1529$ throttling one.
     
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    I think we need to differentiate between Clevo and Sager to have a fair discussion. You can't say 'your incompetence' or 'why you wanted to keep the cost down' to Sager, they don't design the chassis or set the barebones pricing any more than we do...these are points for Clevo.
     
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    The only way for the P955 to match the RB2018 is to use the 90W card + a 180/200W PSU. and a 180/200W PSU will end up forcing resellers to raise the price to 1549$ at least.

    This IS NOT the HARDWARE fault.

     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2018
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