Overclocking 7700HQ and GTX1070

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  1. Pedro69

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    Another thermal throttling...with TS i cant see any problem in limit reasons i think

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    I see it.
    BD Prochot.

    You have it checked on. The user above asked you to disable BD prochot, but you ignored him.
    You still have it enabled.

    The fact that there is a yellow mark there means that it was triggered on by something previously (Yellow=triggered before, Red=triggered right now, active).
    Note: when TS is first loaded, sometimes PL1, EDP Other, Thermal or other flags may be set; this is because they were incorrectly flagged when the system turned on. Just press the Core/GPU/Ring buttons to clear them when you first start throttlestop. Then leave it running. If it THEN gets flagged AFTER, then you have a throttling reason of some sort that caused it.

    BD Prochot is used by the EC to limit CPU power draw to 800 mhz when on battery power, when the combined CPU/GPU load get too high for the battery. Unchecking this will prevent the CPU from throttling to 800 mhz, but this will cause the system to shut down if max battery draw is exceeded. This option should never be triggered at all when on AC power. The fact that you have this flagged means either something is overheating, something is incorrectly flagging this, or the system switched to battery power without you knowing it.

    Uncheck BD Prochot then save the setting and then do your tests. And go into the TS Options and enable "Battery monitoring" also.
     
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    With a unlocked Bios, i can edit the values of Prochot?
     
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    Unlocked Bios can disable BD Prochot, but that will be a $20 donation to SVET, or you can just use throttlestop for free and uncheck it yourself. we told you to do this twice already. Why do you want the unlocked Bios to do it when you can just do it in Throttlestop? It takes....*half a second* to disable it.

    And svet CAN unlock your Bios menus on the Gt72VR 7RE "Dominator Pro", *IF* that's all you asked for. I had this exact same laptop (Before I RMA'd it) and donated to SVET and he sent me the proper files to flash to a USB flash drive in a few days. However memory timings did not appear and did not show up to be changed. And he said the same thing, about the unique machine identification codes and that this method was highly experimental on these newer MSI laptops. The exact same thing he told you. But he refunded your money because you were not telling the full story here. You were asking for far more than just hidden Bios menus unlocked. You were asking for EC hacks, Pascal TDP hacks, the works. These can't be done without disassembly in Linux and hardware programmers, checksum calculation knowledge and possibly even desoldering chips.

    And please don't send me any more silly strange private message questions!! I had you on ignore for weeks. I don't want to put you on ignore again because this time it will be permanent. You are very annoying.
     
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    I only send you a PM TODAY, about RMA question, so im annoying to you for just send my first pm to you today? Im not the first user that not like your atitude with some users(a little search could prove that)....but i not will discuss that here.
    I not will discuss more things about Svet, because i talked with him today again...not you, and if Svet says that not possible to give a unlocked Bios file is BECAUSE HE CAN'T!!! IF others users can do that, i dont know....

    @Falkentyne Already told to you, if you think that you are a master good and know everything....well you are wrong...you want block me forever? Go ahead, i simple dont care...thank you for your help in my problem but with that atitude you not will go anywhere.

    PS: My first message to Svet

    I only asked for unlocked stuff, not EC hacks, Pascal TDP hacks like you said...
     
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    Yes that's the problem.
    You want an unlocked bios, vbios AND EC. you also explained to him why you wanted these things and he told you it was impossible, and refunded your money.

    If you had said "Svet, can you unlock Bios menus for me for MSI GT72VR dominator pro (7700HQ, GTX 1070)" then he would have done that.
    That's exactly what i asked for, he warned it was experimental because of new MSI security feature, and he asked for a 6144k bios dump (or 4096k, I forgot), then he went an automated USB boot file to flash with instructions, which would flash the unlocked menus, and after waiting for a 60 second boot loop, all was done.

    And what you asked me was completely illogical, unrelated and very pointless, so I did not answer your question because it's impossible for me to do such a thing. That RMA question was beyond silly. How can I RMA a BGA CPU? it's SOLDERED On the motherboard. What do you want me to do? Pull it off?
    And you say "I will not go anywhere"? I think my # of reputations says otherwise.

    The very fact that you "can't" disable BD Prochot, even though it's RIGHT in FRONT of your face, despite TWO people telling you to do it, and then asking me if you can unlock bd prochot in an unlocked bios, really speaks a lot about your reading comprehension, or your ability to understand things.

    I'm done with you.
     
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    @Falkentyne I just need understand what component have the problem to think that cpu is hot, but isnt...i will start to remove the cable of the batery and remove 2 slots of RAM to test....
    Of course i know how to disable BD Prochot, but my objective like i said, is to check if possible what part of pc is causing this.

    My question about your RMA was because if you have a problem with a cpu or just because you not like the performance of 7700HQ.
     
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    If this is true, I don't understand why are you so worried about your machine. Apparently it is fine.


    Enviado de meu Pixel 2 usando Tapatalk
     
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    @Vistar Shook
    Just playing right now the evil within, and yes, got the same underclock....i remove the cable of battery but still the same only with AC power.
     
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    Gpu temps can activate BD Prochot? This is a signal path that goes directly to CPU so other devices in motherboard like GPU activate this feature?

    The strange part is that for example in AIDA i never got any kind of throttling when stress cpu/gpu/memory together, even in XTU only stressing the cpu, throttling is clear....

    This only happens in games, very strange....
     
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