OS choices for tablet w/o keyboard. D1-Q1-Q2-G1

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  1. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    What are your thoughts?
    Mainly looking for something for the D1. It does not have a keyboard at all.
    Anything that has Grub popup is a problem as Grub doesn't support touch.

    Options so far
    Chromium- Open version of Chrome
    Chromium can be changed into Chrome. --Any advantage to doing this?
    FydeOS- Runs Android apk, Linux flatpacks, and Windows programs. Big plus with the flexibility.
    Cloudready-Freeware version of ChromeOS
    Windows 10- Needs rework to eliminate the bloat
    Android x86- Tried it before and was not impressed.

    Starting with Chrome 68 it auto senses keyboard or mouse and switches desktop somewhat. So it is very touchscreen friendly. I "assume" the Chrome forks also have this feature.

    https://www.electromaker.io/blog/ar...mium-os-vs-cloudready-which-chrome-os-is-best
     
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    evenflow153 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would personally go with Linux Mint. I think D1s are Core2Duos and if so then it’ll run. I’ve got a older Gateway with C2Duo and runs fine

    CloudReady is a nice option for lightweight OSs however they tend to run nicer on Celerons.

    Chromium to Chrome isn’t a big difference.

    If windows 8 /8.1 would run then I would choose that. It’s fairly touchscreen friendly.

    Windows 10 would take too long for all its bloatware do get off

    Again I’m nobody to lookup to for OS recommendations but I can recommend things. Also I’ve never owned a D1
     
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    Connect USB keyboard, install FreeBSD without GUI, disconnect kb :))

    Win8 is a beta version of Win10 and therefore is obsolete. There is only one :))

    ps. my choice is full win10 without addons like classic start menu etc.
     
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    For tablets, I have tried a handful of Linux distros, and although the hardware works with a little tweaking, the GUI experience is less than desirable. (Mostly onscreen keyboard lag, and scaling issues.) So on my FZ-G1, I use Windows 10 (1903). I never liked Windows 8 (or 8.1). Windows 10 does not match the GUI experience of IOS or Android, but it seems to be the least evil of the evils for now. (I bought an MS Surface Go tablet, which also runs Windows 10. I'm not sure what possessed me to do that.) Hopefully in the near future Linux will have a truly tablet friendly distro, as that is my preference on most of my computers.

    EDIT: Regarding Chrome OS, I do not like an OS that is so utterly dependent on the internet. As I understand it, Chrome is pretty much just a web browser to access web based apps. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Chrome os has improved.
    Now you can run android apps on it.
    It even has a start screen sorta like Android with a page of icons on it.

    Linux is very keyboard centric. They don't seem to be in any hurry to change that. That is odd to me. For instance, NO touchscreen or onscreen kb in grub.
    Tablets are too popular to not be able to install an OS without needing a physical keyboard.
    Even the bios on these tablets has an onscreen kb.

    I agree w8 is beta of w10. W8 is not an option for me. Tweaking w10 would be a must. Although I would need to keep all the touch friendly features. Probably would not use classic start menu.
     
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    I missed a post in there.

    W10 would require removing the bloat. I have done this on other machines. Enough that w10 looks VERY close to w7.
    My D1 is a Celeron.

    If I went mainstream Linux it would be MX18.
    BUT Mint and all other distros use the grub menu.
    Grub doesn't do touchscreen or virtual keyboard.
    Here is a test to do.
    Get a tablet, any tablet but a Surface.
    Boot any Linux distro and choose the second menu option without using any tablet buttons or an external keyboard / usb device. You can't.
    So if I want to dual boot, I can't
    If I want to do a memory check or another service thing in Grub, I can't.
    If I want to hit f6 or f8 or fwhatever, I can't.
    All I can do in grub is the default option.

    Linux is designed to be command line /keyboard centered. The designers are in zero hurry to change that.
    So many things in Linux must be done command line with a keyboard.
    Not acceptable in todays world of tablets. I do not need command line in Windows or in MacOS.
    You won't believe the effort required to get the on screen keyboard to stay open so I could enter the root password in the popup box. Think we had to try half a dozen virtual keyboards in order to find one we could configure to work with the password box.
     
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    Did a quick boot of FydeOS on the Q1 with broken touchscreen---meh.
    Going to try BlissOS next.
    Will try FydeOS on the G1 with working touchscreen and see how it does.

    I have seen several Linux distros that are labeled for the Surface. Not sure what is different, but I will try one of those just to see what it does.
     
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