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**Official Sager NP5160 / Clevo W150HNQ Owners' Lounge**

Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. wicked20

    wicked20 Notebook Consultant

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    Mythlogic and other NP5160 resellers,

    Do you know why Mythlogic.com has the
    i7-2720QM 2.20GHz upgrade for only +$19.55 and other sellers +$160?

    Unfortunately, Mythlogic total price is about $200 more (I'm guessing because of the included 4years warranty). Mythlogic, is there anyway to not include the warranty to lower the price?

    Do you know when there might be other notebooks similar to NP5160 with ExpressCard, removable/upgradable mid GPU? Do you know where we can find service manual or internal pictures of NP5160.

    Thanks so much.
     
  2. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    Our price difference is because we build them from scratch, so our pricinig is differen't which sometimes means we are a bit more and sometimes we are a bit cheaper and it allows us to have many more options for the laptops as we can use any compatible components. Also all of our components are all Kingston/Corsair/Seagate you won't find any a-data memory, or fujitsu or hitachi drives in our laptops. Yes we have a 4 year warranty with technical support. Also all our laptops are hand built and hand tested by us for over 72 hours before they ever get to you, using the same validation tools that intel uses when they prove their motherboards and cpu's as we are a direct Intel partner. So overall our component prices are a bit different and we put a lot of labor into building each machine to make sure that its ready to go, and we've done our best to kill it and then replace the failing components before we send it to you.

    For internal pictures of the 5160, you can get the service manual for the 5135 which is the same model, but has the same connectors etc. You can get them from http://forum.notebookreview.com/7040924-post1052.html that post if you want to see the internals.
     
  3. wicked20

    wicked20 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks Myth,

    So there are two Mini-cards mPCIe for ViDock?

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-diy-vidock-experiences.html

    1.Mini-Card Connector (3.5G Module)

    4. Mini-Card Connector (WLAN Module)

    I appreciate the high quality & warranty for the more expensie / higher heat models. I hope you will someday reconsider giving buyers an option for the lower cost options on these lower end models.

    Many of us are light / low milelage users, with other PCs, smartphones, work PCs, especially with SSDs and much lower heat new processors wiil appreaciate the lower costs & quality.

    Thanks.
     
  4. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    No worries, completely understand, also note that on 2/20 cheaper processors will be out (Dual Core) so you might want to check back then as that will make them cheaper and cooler which would be perfect for those types of uses. The only unknown on that m-Pcie slot MIGHT be wired USB instead of pcie+usb like on the 5135 but we don't have confirmation of that until we get to touch one, as Clevo also uploaded the wrong manual for this model on the website, so we can't check there either :)
     
  5. bmrowe

    bmrowe Notebook Enthusiast

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    Question, what do you gain by swapping out the thermal compound? Is that more of an overclocking thing?
     
  6. Bhima

    Bhima Notebook Consultant

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    The hope is that your laptop runs a few degrees cooler at both idle and load... this tends to help not only overclockers, but the longevity of the laptop overall.
     
  7. Wonderdog

    Wonderdog Notebook Guru

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    Sigh... now all we need is one of these with a proper MXM socket to handle a 6970m, BIOS switchable graphics and we're laughing.
     
  8. lammah

    lammah Notebook Evangelist

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    That's pretty sad :/
    However, is there a plan to allow other video cards in the future?
     
  9. othonda

    othonda Notebook Deity

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    Which CPU is being quoted here for the battery life?
     
  10. paladin44

    paladin44 Company Representative

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    Integrated video will give you 4.5~5 hours battery life.
     
  11. othonda

    othonda Notebook Deity

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    I understand the machine is running off the IGP to get the extended time, what I want to know is the machine using a Quad or Dual CPU to get the 4.5-5 hours of run time. It will make a difference which one is being quoted for the time.
     
  12. lammah

    lammah Notebook Evangelist

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    The sandy bridge currently listed are 45W and above, see here.

    So their power usage will be about the same as 1st gen quad i7 , such as the i7-720.

    I am waiting for the release of the 25 and 35W sandy bridges to check their benchmarks, they should have a significantly longer battery life.
     
  13. madwildcat

    madwildcat Notebook Enthusiast

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    Doesn't it have to be the Quad core Sandy-Bridges that are being used? For one, the quad cores are the only CPUs being offered with this model, and for two, I don't believe the dual core Sandy Bridge is out yet.
     
  14. othonda

    othonda Notebook Deity

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    Not necessarily, since this laptop will support both duals and quads, the factory testing will have validated both types. For the resellers to quote numbers they have to get back to Sager or Clevo, so the numbers they get could be from either class of CPU’s. Not from just what you could buy now.
     
  15. paladin44

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    The 4.5~5 hour battery life quote is from actual testing using Sandy Bridge Quads and the integrated video.

    Testing with the discrete card is not done because there are just too many variables of use, and therefore the battery life will vary widely. However you should expect, given proper settings to maximize battery life, the most important of which is to have your screen brightness turned down as much as possible and still have it comfortable to read, you should see something in the range of 2~2.5 or more hours given normal computing tasks. For gaming, cut it in half.
     
  16. nosleep

    nosleep Newbie

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    Can you tell me what version of memory is used for the 540m graphic card? Clevo website says GDDR3 but that does not seem to be an option according to:
    NotebookCheck Specs
    According to that, only GDDR5 and DDR3 are available.
     
  17. othonda

    othonda Notebook Deity

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    Nice! So with a 35W Dual (I am thinking the i5 2520) we should see a solid battery life north of 5 hours.
     
  18. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Just from Sager:

     
  19. Seanwhat

    Seanwhat Notebook Consultant

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    Does this affect all sager/clevo resellers? I'm not sure how the whole business works.
     
  20. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Yes, that is correct. :(
     

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