*OFFICIAL* Gateway Creator Series Model: GWTN156-3 i5-10300H W/ RTX 2060

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  1. djweissman

    djweissman Notebook Enthusiast

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    GWTN156-3 | Gateway USA | Laptops | Ultra Slim | Gateway

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    15.6" FHD Performance Notebook
    Model: GWTN156-3

    The Gateway Creator Series 15.6" Performance Notebook is a powerhouse equipped with 10th Gen Intel i5 and an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 allowing you to game with ease or breeze through you daily tasks. The Tuned by THX display screens provide rich, vibrant colors and better contrast and are paired with the Tuned by THX Audio which lets you experience the theater level quality while in the convenience of your home. During gaming, you will feel like you are in the center of the action with the THX Spatial audio software which provides stereo and spatial surround sound through headphones by simulating a 7.1 surround sound.

    • Windows 10 Home
    • 10th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-10300H Processor (2.5GHz, Up to 4.5GHz, 8M Cache)
    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB vRAM
    • Tuned by THX™ Audio & Display
    • 256 GB Solid State Drive
    • 8 GB Onboard RAM
    Available Colors

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    Inside Box


    Product Dimensions

    Length: 14.8”

    Height: 9.6”

    Width: 0.8"

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    Gateway Laptop

    Laptop Charger

    Warranty Book

    Quick Start Guide

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    Product Specs
    Processor

    10th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-10300H Processor (2.5GHz, Up to 4.5GHz, 8M Cache)

    Display

    15.6” LCD IPS Display, (1920 x 1080), 120Hz

    Hard Drive

    256 GB Solid State Drive

    Micro SD

    Micro SD Slot (Up to 512 GB) x 1

    Speakers

    Built-in Stereo Speakers x 2

    Front Camera

    1MP Front-Facing Camera

    Battery Life

    Up to 8.5 hours of battery life

    RAM Memory

    8 GB Onboard RAM

    Ports

    USB 2.0 x 1 USB 3.0 x 1

    Microphone

    Built-in Microphone

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    Main Features
    Windows 10 Home
    Tuned by THX™ Audio
    Tuned by THX Disaply
    Built-in Microphone
    Built-in Stereo Speakers x 2
    Up to 5 hours of battery life

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    Take it Anywhere
    THE GATEWAY CREATOR SERIES 15.6" PERFORMANCE NOTEBOOK IS A POWERHOUSE EQUIPPED WITH 10TH GEN INTEL I5 AND AN NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 ALLOWING YOU TO GAME WITH EASE OR BREEZE THROUGH YOU DAILY TASKS. THE TUNED BY THX DISPLAY SCREENS PROVIDE RICH, VIBRANT COLORS AND BETTER CONTRAST AND ARE PAIRED WITH THE TUNED BY THX AUDIO WHICH LETS YOU EXPERIENCE THE THEATER LEVEL QUALITY WHILE IN THE CONVENIENCE OF YOUR HOME. DURING GAMING, YOU WILL FEEL LIKE YOU ARE IN THE CENTER OF THE ACTION WITH THE THX SPATIAL AUDIO SOFTWARE WHICH PROVIDES STEREO AND SPATIAL SURROUND SOUND THROUGH HEADPHONES BY SIMULATING A 7.1 SURROUND SOUND.


    If you are thinking of getting one of these laptops, they can sometimes be found here refurbished for $699. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbish...8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-Win-10-Home-Black/267306293


    This is a great unboxing and review of the laptop with a look inside. Gateway Creator Series 15.6" Performance Notebook: Yes, They're Back... - YouTube upload_2021-3-19_9-28-49.jpeg


    MUX switch is located under the “advanced” tab in the bios. Enabling the dGPU only will enable more options in the Nvidia control panel.


    Undervolting is also located in the advanced section of the bios. (capped at –50)


    Recovery has the ability to install from the internet as well as the local partition. This is something I haven't seen since owning a MacBook a decade ago.


    This is a great thread started by hertzian56 with tons of useful info. Gateway Creators Series 15.6" RTX 2060 i5-10300H | NotebookReview

    Drivers can be found here thanks to Catlas_Se7en from Reddit: https://help.maingear.com/article/68-maingear-vector-2020-drivers-and-bios-downloads

    Drivers can also be found here: Eluktronics RP-15 Laptop Review: The Ryzen 7 4800H Impresses Yet Again - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

    I've also stumbled upon this thread which refers to a chassis/model similar to this: TONGFANG GK5CN5Z / GK5CN6Z / GK5CQ7Z / GK5CP0Z | NotebookReview

    This is a review of the Ryzen version assembled by Eluktronics: Eluktronics RP-15 Laptop Review: The Ryzen 7 4800H Impresses Yet Again - NotebookCheck.net Reviews.

    Thanks to Plane_John for this thread that contains a lot of information. Gateway Creator 15.6” Performance Notebook i5/RTX2060 First Impressions : GamingLaptops (reddit.com)

    This thread has a lot of information that's very helpful. https://slickdeals.net/f/14537105-g...tx-2060-649-free-shipping?page=32#commentsBox

    GPU is Nvidia and panel is FreeSync.

    Time Spy with directx 12 upgrade:

    Combined score: 6,243
    Graphics Score
    6,721
    CPU Score
    4,452

    CyberPunk 2077
    high with ray tracing and dlss around 50 FPS
    the adjustable bar for quality was only 3 ticks lower than max.
     
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  2. SirSherlockHolmes

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    Decided to mess the BIOS & EC, unfortunately, GatewayUSA does not provide their own files. The system came stock with N1.02. I decided to install the BIOS & EC from XMG's Intel Core 15 which has an i7 over an i5. But the same chassis. The BIOS is N1.03 and actually enabled some additional features. The boot logo of course changed, but the only issue I am now experiencing is that I didn't realize (my fault) that the XMG model has a different Media/FN key layout, so the EC update remapped the FN keys. So f11 which is normally Brightness Down on the Gateway is Airplane mode on the XMG. This is slightly annoying, but liveable, so hopefully, I can revert back to the Gateway EC (Can't find a copy of it) to restore the proper mappings.

    Also, the Performance profile button next to the power button has been remapped to a fan boost button. Everything else is working great with no issues.

    These were the files I used:
    Bios-XMG_CORE_XCO15E20_XCO17E20_RTX2060_BIOS_N1.03
    Bios-CORE-15_XCO15E20_GK5MR0O_RTX2060_EC_11.630
     
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    djweissman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sir,

    I wonder how we would obtain the factory bios. I'm still hoping that they make drivers available to us since the laptop has sold so well. Did you notice performance differences or fan differences when flashing a new EC?
     
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    I was able to get the factory EC and BIOS for the Gateway I will be keeping the XMG bios but using the Gateway EMC to get my propper media keys back.

    3BK_intel_CML_10L_GK5MR0O_ESI_BIOS_N.1.02_EC_1.16.20_20200810.zip (dropbox.com)
     
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    whiterose Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anyone been able to unlock the bios and see perhaps if we can squeeze some more power out of the GPU?
     
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    I have not. If there is one, it will most likely belong to the equivalent models rebranded by other distributors. According to user yrekabakery the equivalent is the MB-15 from Eluktronics. Please let us know if you find something useful.
     
  7. hertzian56

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    You may want to search the techpowerup site using google, that site has terrible search, there are MSI etc vbios that seem to unlock it, those are most likely higher end systems with better cooling though. There's a thread here in the gaming section about the 2060 vbios with more info. Not worth the risk to me though. @Jimbo Mahoney

    https://www.win-raid.com/t5087f16-Requesting-a-modded-vbios-for-Rtx-max-Q-1.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...f-eluktronics-max-2060-115w-tdp.831742/page-4
     
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    Thank you all for this informative post. So, I've been able update the vBIOS with this:

    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/225910/225910

    More on that later.

    This is what I've done before updating the vBIOS:
    • 50 millivolt undervolt (thanks HardwareSense ).
    • Disabled the integrated GPU via the BIOS.
    • Installed a 1TB PCIe NVMe drive.
    • Added an additional matching Crucial 8GB of DDR4 3200 RAM for a total of 16GB. (I ended up selling the 16GB's and upgrading to 32GB later)
    • Used MSI Afterburner to overclock the GPU to +190 core clock and +500 memory clock.
    • Installed Elucktronic's Control Center (same chassis and newer than what came on the GWTN156-3BK).
    • Uninstalled Norton.
    • Set the Power Management Mode in 3D Settings on the Nvidia Control Panel to Adaptive.
    • Set power mode in Windows to Best Performance.
    • Followed Tech Yes City's "How To SPEED UP Windows 10".
    • Enabled Wake On LAN in the BIOS and the network card.
    Regarding the overclock- I basically set the memory clock to +500 and then started increasing the core clock until MSI Kombuster 4 detected artifacts during a stress test. +210 is where it started producing artifacts, so I felt +190 was conservative. In monitoring temps, they never left the 60's. During a +1 hour VR MS Flight Sim run in 21°C/70°F ambient temps these were the highest values I saw on the GPU via GPU-z logging:
    • GPU Clock 1800.0 MHz
    • Memory Clock 1500.2 MHz
    • GPU Temperature 66.9°C
    • Hot Spot 76.4 °C
    • GPU Load 99%
    • Board Power Draw 97.5W (exceptional, hardly ever is above 90W)
    This was my TimSpy results with those modifications:
    Total: 6,592
    Graphics Score: 7,197
    CPU Score: 4,467
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/60077974?

    After I updated the vBIOS with the 115 watt variant I reinstalled my NVidia drivers and ran TimeSpy again with after verifying that the same overclock is solid:
    Total: 6,881
    Graphics Score: 7,264
    CPU Score: 5,300
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61079616

    So, that is not a hugely better GPU score.

    In using GPU-Z to log temp data during MSFS 2020 I see that my GPU temps now go up to 78°C. I've also verified that the Board Power Draw is in the 115 watt range.

    As far as ports, the HDMI works great, but the one of the DP ports can't go higher than 1080P and the other doesn't respond. Upgrading to the 115 watt vBIOS for a basically unnoticeable performance increase with ~10°C higher temps doesn't seem worth it to me.
     
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    Thanks for the information. You may want to try some of the other vbios in the other thread, hard to believe almost no benefit in the synthetic benches. If you can set gpuz to record the max power draw to confirm 115w is being pulled, during high level gaming mostly. I've seen up to 96w during cyberpunk. I suspcted the dps would be effected. I'd do a search using the vbios 90xxx of what you have to get a model of what laptop it came from then find what I/O's it has, but I'm pretty sure dual DPs are unique to this gw. I haven't run a bench with my OC of 160/500 to see what difference that gets. 25W should buy you about 8% according to a techplanet article about the 115w 2060. I suspect the extra memory got you a bit too.

    I get 5-20%, depending on the game, just with the dgpu only setting from my games benchmarks. Try game benches they are more accurate/relevant, like Gears 5, ACod, HZD and any other game that have a built in benchmark. Good to see it can be done safely. You probably want to set the power mode in NCP to prefer maximum.
     
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    I've verified that the Board Power Draw is in the 115 watt range. It has nearly no delay in ramping up to there.

    I actually am just a sim gamer and get my data from GPU-Z logging with MSFS2020. That’s where I’m getting

    Done. No appreciable difference.

    I think my results are typical. Judging from these TimeSpy results:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/gz23yj/max_15_wrtx_2060_benchmarks/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/lwbb55/msi_gs66_rtx_2060_refresh_i7_10750h_time_spy/

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2060-Laptop-Graphics-Card.384946.0.html

    I think my card is performing about where it should be. I don’t know if trying other vBIOS would be worth the time.
     
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