*** Official Clevo X170SM-G/Sager NP9670M Owner's Lounge ***

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  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It's not just the cores it's the clocks and all core sustained turbo speeds.
     
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    1610ftw Notebook Consultant

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    It is clear that the X170 was made with a certain compromise between thermal budget and size and they probably thought this would be good enough as it sits somewhere in between the previous P775 and P870 offerings and SLI won't come back.

    Bet they did not really anticipate the extent of the core race that we see now between Intel and AMD and if the fastest Intel CPU will have 12 or more cores in the future people will also want to have that in their X170...
     
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  3. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    10th gen is a buffer. I expect next gen will be chiplet design with a much larger socket.
     
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    tps3443 Notebook Deity

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    You guys think X170 will live a long time through several sockets like P7xx and P8xx laptops?
     
  5. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    You forgot the second stopgap:) The well known +++++

    Rocket Lake-S

    Clevo usually milk long on a chassis. Only with minor changes.
    See above <minor improvements>. They could make a Vapor Chamber heatsink. This as a improvement vs. previous model. They could do it today...But if they created it for this revision, nothing to show next year:D
     
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    A typical case of good enough to impress with some room for improvement - excellent product strategy :D
     
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    Due to the lower volume thr desktop chassis TDP have to put in more time to turn a profit.
     
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    In my system the real premium is the cooling system for the video card. 200W of power consumption @ less than 80°C is a thing of beauty. You guys think that is for the VC? What could one expect without the VC?

    Enviado desde mi G8441 mediante Tapatalk
     
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    MSI was usually known for better conventional cooling and they always used to run cooler than Clevos at the same noise level from what I have seen since ca. 2014. This changed with the vapor chamber design so it looks like it is at least part of the secret sauce that allows superior cooling.
     
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    Agreed, smaller systems will give better profit per time invested in R&D and also time on the market but there is still money to be made with a bigger chassis like the X170 that can be reused and upgraded for a number of years.

    Obviously nobody really thinks at the moment that there is also money to be made with something significantly bigger but at least we still get the occasional (shrunken) 17" laptop and what is more important we still have at least two designs with (in theory) upgradable graphics.
     
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