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  1. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I suppose that's OK if you're content with stock 7700K performance. Otherwise, it's just kind of a lame excuse for 7820HK being a piece of crap CPU compared to 7700K. The reason for this is ODMs framing everything in a manner to make it seem like it should somehow be OK or expected to be inferior based on the half-assed notion that everyone should naturally expect less from a laptop just because it's a laptop. And, this is why 99.9% of the laptops made today totally suck.
     
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    tps3443 Notebook Deity

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    Well, mine was faster than a stock 7700K. My 7820HK ran just as well as a 4.7Ghz 7700K does. Or as well as Papusans 4.5Ghz 7700K did.

    But when I did run 4.2 it was practically a 7700K.

    All i’m saying is, what’s wrong with having 90% of something if it offers huge advantage?
     
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    tps3443 Notebook Deity

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    Your 1085 vs my 1010 is only like 7% faster though. isn’t this very marginal? if a machine weight half as much and half as thick?

    Does the term

    “Never even come close”

    does that even really come in to play here?

    7% sounds very very marginal to me.
     
  4. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    You got 1010cb running 4.8GHz then say achieved stock 7700K performance...

    Some numbers... All done with 2133 sticks clocked to 2666MHz.
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    Core i7-7700K - Intel - WikiChip
    You see? Your 4.8GHz maxed out oc can barely come above stock 7700K@4.4GHz running minimum all core boost. We don't talk about the Processor's Base Frequency.
    7.4% would be the same as if you got a chips that could do 5.2GHz, instead overclocked near 5.6GHz if you put it in perspective. And yees, I know that not all bother with maximum performance and rather prefer looking for design... This is one of the main reasons we now see more and more Apple lookalike Notebooks being thrown out in the market. And almost all is equal crippled only with the different brands own design touch.
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  5. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    You can't. It's impossible.
    No one knows why. It was always 1 speed bin below a K LGA chip. That was with cache -3 lower than core.
    Maybe it was some RAM timing that the clevos have that the BGA stuff didn't have. But I don't know.
    The 6 core processors are even worse. Two effective bins below an 8700K when both are at the same speed.

    See?
    cb_4500.jpg
     
  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Sad to see them dump their lower binned ASIC chips into mobile systems.
    Seeing the same trend with NVIDIA's Max-Q chips requiring a lot more voltage at higher clocks than their Max-P counterparts.

    From a technical perspective doing the opposite would be the logical decision. Surely not the engineers making the decisions here...

    Edit: Max-Q is actually Low-Q going by ASIC quality...LOL
     
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  7. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    it sucks and to make it worse, average consumers further drive companies to do what they do, milk!

    you ask them what specs of their PC, they simply tell you: it's got i7, it's good.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    All core turbo being set to max turbo speed is a motherboard manufacturer overclocking for you, it is not supported by intel directly.
     
  9. jc_denton

    jc_denton V̖̟en̰g̻̼̰̩͙ea̲n̪c̭e̼ ͍̘̤͓̟̤Is̙͔ ̤Mi̻̭̣͎͍ͅn̰ḙ

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    Sounds like the're milking the last possible penny.
     
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    Well, they can't tell us what model of i7 because that would spoil the surprise, LOL.

    But, yeah... on a more serious note, it is super-retarded. You go to an "official" web site and all it says is "i7" CPU. This is a very bad reflection upon the character and integrity (lack thereof) of people that sell them, and a really tragic demonstration of stupidity for the people that don't have a flipping clue what they are buying.
     
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