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**Official Clevo W230ST/Sager NP7330 Owner's Lounge**

Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. Paul_R65

    Paul_R65 Newbie

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    I assume this is not possible, but can the three drive slots in the W230ST be configured in a RAID 5 (given all of the drives are the same size)?
     
  2. bydus

    bydus Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks for a reply. HTwing have you taken off the paper stickers saying the pipes might get warm, maybe it would reduce temps ?
     
  3. frewster

    frewster Notebook Consultant

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    Taking off that paper isn't going to do anything. It isn't enough of an insulator and doesn't cover enough of the pipes to make them warmer. Besides, 99% of the heat is dissipated from the fan blowing air over the heat sink fins. You can take it off but you won't notice a difference.
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    The BIOS seems to only support two drive RAID 0 or RAID 1. It can be msata + msata or msata + sata.

    Otherwise you can do a RAID 5 from within Windows. It will just consume CPU resources and you will not be able to boot off the RAID 5 array anyhow.
     
  5. CoolPrizes

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    That paper is there so you can remove the heatsink.
     
  6. Paul_R65

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    Thank you HTWingNut, it is interesting that a 2 drive mixed msata/sata RAID is possible. Off the top of my head, I can not think anything positive or negative about a mixed msata/sata RAID.
     
  7. Ghengis

    Ghengis Notebook Consultant

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    I have a 4702. I haven't run The Very Most Demanding Games yet, I don't think, but everything seems fine performance-wise. I ran Hydrophobia -- a few years old, but very demanding for the physics effects -- and it was smooth as butter at full resolution. I tried XTU once or twice but I'm not sure the hassle is worth the few extra percent battery life, or the few degrees cooler temps, at least for my system.

    I got mine with 4702 from Hawkforce.de, but that probably doesn't help if you're in the US. When I was shopping, I did see at least 1 US retailer that was selling a totally barebones shell, but I wasn't sure where one would buy a CPU in that case, since I don't think the Haswell chips are available in a "retail box" yet. In any event, if you have a favorite reseller, you can always email them to ask for a special order...
     
  8. ECKS

    ECKS Notebook Prophet

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    No, no. I meant: Can the halves be stuck together to form one ball, for easy storage? Rather than having two halves, ya know? Also, is the velcro pre-affixed to the halves? Hope you know what I mean...
     
  9. CoolPrizes

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    Pretty sure it's a "no". What you want is one half with velcro loops and the other with velcro hooks.

    It's cheaper to make them exactly the same. Both halves with velcro loops, laptop adhesive side with velcro hooks.

    Unless you're telling me they are using 3M "Velcro"

    You can mod them if you would like to.
     
  10. sheldor

    sheldor Newbie

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    Hi,

    I have been reading this forum for a while now, I bought the 4702MQ version from xnote.pl about a month ago.

    Everything is fine except that Intel XTU doesn't load my profile when I reboot. Earlier on It was ok, but when I tried -110mV, after some longer gaming I got a crash and since then I can't get it to load up on startup. Now im using -90mV and it's stable.

    Anyone have a solution? Manually doing it every time is very annoying :/
     
  11. HTWingNut

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    They both have the hook side of the velcro. They will loosely stick together but not real well. I know what you mean though. I only take it off when I throw it in my bag, but even then it fits just fine.

    It should only reset after coming out of sleep mode (suspend to RAM). Hibernate does not affect it. I agree it is annoying. Prema is trying to see if he can unlock the option in the BIOS, but it may take some time to figure it all out. He's planning on getting a W230ST though which is good, then he can go full boar getting the BIOS to work.

    So far some CPU things can be changed like turning hyperthreading and speedstep on or off. Voltage change may be possible, but hunting through the uncharted parts of the BIOS can be a bit daunting.
     
  12. Amal77

    Amal77 Notebook Deity

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    Hi Genghis.

    Can you run the wPrime tools, and test the 1024M test on flat surface(no cooler, no popping up the back), and share us the highest temp?

    Download wPrime 2.10 | PUTME
    *Run as admin.

    Can you also run HWmonitor, and share us the idle result for the "package on powers" using power saver mode?

    Appreciate it.

    Thanks!
     
  13. sheldor

    sheldor Newbie

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    Since I'm using my laptop on a flat desk, no cooling pad, no popping up the back I thought I could share my temps with you.

    Ambient temp. 26C


    Idle gives around 60C

    EDIT: I changed the pic, it wasn't accurate.

    Too bad the fan starts to run at max speed when the CPU reaches 94C, hope the new bios will fix it.
     

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  14. Ghengis

    Ghengis Notebook Consultant

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    When you say "package on powers", do you mean CPU Package Power? On "Power saving mode" (in the Clevo control center), it hovers right around 7W.

    I downloaded wPrime, and ran 1024M on both Quiet (71c) and Performance (92c) on a flat wooden table. As far as I can tell, wPrime didn't tell me how long each took, but Performance as definitely faster -- something like 5 1/2 minutes for Performance vs about 10 for Quiet. Does that help?



    ETA: For those thinking about the 4702, or just on the fence about the thermals for the W230ST generally, I'd like to point out that even though the CPU approached 92c, the fan never went to max, even on Performance, and nothing actually feels hot. I've stressed everything gaming for over an hour and at worst the housing feels "warm". I'm very happy with the heat output of my system
     
  15. Amal77

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    Thank you for sharing the results.

    It gets quite hot too, so it seems.

    How long was the Prime95 test?

    Objective is to get the max temp of the 4702MQ.
    Maybe to make it more fair(due to the bad fan profile), can you first turn the fan speed to max(FN+1), and run the test, and report the max temp you can get?

    I'm in a mid of deciding whether I should change to 4702MQ or stick to my current 4700MQ.
    Maybe this will help others too in making their decision.

    Thank you very much!

    Thanks man.

    It hovers around 7W while the load is less than 10% or was there some other load at the time?
    If it is hovering around 7W while the load is less than 10%, means that there's not much difference with my 4700MQ on idle.

    92c is quite hot, but not as hot as my 4700MQ where it reached 95c on flat surface.

    Like the above post, to eliminate the bad fan profile factor, can you do an FN+1 first before you run the 1024M test?

    Again, thanks for sharing the results!
     
  16. sisqo_uk

    sisqo_uk Notebook Evangelist

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    Edit: just noticed wingnut replied and of course he has 1st hand use with them :)
     
  17. severall

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    Hello guys, i'd like to show you my chipset cooling mod :E. This small radiator lower the temp about 10C. Before i reach 85C in intensive use, now PCH hit maximum 74-76C.

    after.jpg before.jpg
     
  18. HTWingNut

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    Nice. I thought about putting a little RAM heatsink on mine.
     
  19. Rockin_Zombie

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    Almost ordering this one, just gotta do the wore transfer on Monday. One question, has anyone tried using external audio devices (USB) with this one? Any issues? I can live with the other problems but need my audiophile fix.

    Great thread, a great read for a lazy saturday afternoon lol, much appreciated.
     
  20. severall

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    I use Nuforce uDAC2 with this laptop. No problem whatsoever.
     

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