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**Official Clevo W230ST/Sager NP7330 Owner's Lounge**

Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. afrazier

    afrazier Newbie

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    If you can find the drive you want as an mSATA, I'd go with that. It leaves the SATA slot open for a larger HD or SSD down the road should you want or need one.

    Look at the pricing on the M5M? Since it's supports DEVSLP, it should have lower idle power draw than either of those two.
     
  2. Rinx7

    Rinx7 Notebook Guru

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    Plextor M5M mSATA is the popular one right now, and performs better than the rest.
     
  3. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Mostly Harmless...

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    There is no difference between mSATA or SATA now as far as performance. They are all SATA III 6Gbps. Just 2.5" SATA drives tend to be cheaper, and older mSATA drives were slower. But not any more.
     
  4. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Definitely put your SSD in the mSATA slot. No doubt.

    The reason is because you want to keep your 2.5" SATA drive bay open and unused for future expandability. If/when you decide that you need more storage capacity, you can always put a large, inexpensive mechanical HDD in the 2.5" SATA drive bay for bulk storage of media content (photos, music, videos, pr0n). That type of content uses a lot of storage space, and doesn't benefit from SSD speeds, so it is ideal to put on slow high-capacity mechanical HDD storage. Currently the highest-capacity drives you can find in a 2.5" size are 1TB drives. But I'm sure that at some point in the near future (12 months), we will begin to see 1.5TB and 2.0TB drives coming out.

    A 256GB mSATA drive will have about a +$50 price premium over an equivalent 256GB 2.5" SATA SSD. However, that price premium is absolutely worth it, just for the sole reason of being able to keep your 2.5" SATA drive bay free. If you're looking for an mSATA drive, I'd follow Rinx7's recommendation to get a Plextor M5M 256GB mSATA SSD, and just call it a day. Fast, reliable, and used by many people on these forums.
     
  5. holden

    holden Notebook Enthusiast

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    Cool, thanks guys. So it sounds like I should order my system sans HD, then pick up an M5M and install it myself (since none of the resellers offer it), and install Windows using an external optical/boot disk. Suppose that's what I'll do, then, just as soon as I can pick out a processor.
     
  6. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Mostly Harmless...

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    Just make a Windows USB flash drive from another PC if you can.

    Although I wonder when OEM's will start to ship data on 1GB or 2GB flash drives. They sure are cheap enough and they could write protect them too so you couldn't destroy the data on it and have your drivers on it like on DVD. So many machines don't ship with optical drives any more.
     
  7. GuniGuGu

    GuniGuGu Notebook Consultant

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    Who wants to report on Natural Selection 2 performance at 1080p? :)
     
  8. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Mostly Harmless...

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    Eh, considering "recommended" specs are Core 2 Duo 3GHz and GTX 450 or better, I'm sure it will run spectacular. But I'll give it a whirl.
     
  9. A_Grounded_Pilot

    A_Grounded_Pilot Notebook Consultant

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    Wingnut, care to try COH 2? I'm interested to see how your undervolted 4800MQ does...
     
  10. GuniGuGu

    GuniGuGu Notebook Consultant

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    You would think so.. but i've found performance to be anything but.. It really does seem to fly all over the place. On my current lappy (it's IGP w/ i5 Ivy Bridge LOL I know) I get about 15 fps at 1366 x 768 on low.
     
  11. CoolPrizes

    CoolPrizes Notebook Consultant

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    What do you expect out of an IGP? It says GT 450 or better. :p
     
  12. GuniGuGu

    GuniGuGu Notebook Consultant

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    True, but google seems to correlate that performance is all over the place :p Just curious to see how this beast performs with it.
     
  13. ldkv

    ldkv Notebook Consultant

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    I just contacted their live chat and this is what I got:
    "Sorry, i forgot it was the 13" verison you was looking at. Yes this has an option for 2 mSATA. To get a second you will need to contact us once you have placed the order and we can add the second mSATA."

    So no problem with the mSATA slots. However they don't offer an option to remove 2GB RAM and 250GB HDD. I want to buy just the barebone to save some extra coins, and they don't have the French keyboard (yet) either :(.
     
  14. Nightdreaming

    Nightdreaming Notebook Enthusiast

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    You could wait for Schenker (mysn, XMG, Germany). They normaly have French Keyboard.
    The W230ST is not listed yet, but someone said in a german forum that it will be avaible on week 32.
    They dont have the option to get the barebone without RAM or HDD in their online Shop but you can order via phone or email and i´m pretty sure they can give you a price without RAM and HDD.
     
  15. bydus

    bydus Notebook Evangelist

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    i'm planning to order w230st and have decided to go for 1600x900 screen - i went to one of the sony shops to see how FULL HD looks on 13.3 and while the quality is super awesome the text is just too small for me.. hopefully the HD+ will be ok.

    I torn between 4700 and 4702 cpu - my question is if PREMA bios comes out I will be able to modify the 4700 frequences at startup? I've never underclocked or undervolted CPU and i'm not sure if its difficult. Can someone advise me on which cpu I should go for ? I will be playing BF3 and BF4 and GTA5 when they come out so I assume the 4700 would be best but i'm concerned about the temperatures... also how much of a FPS drop will I see in 4702 cpu ?
     
  16. Meaker

    Meaker Company Representative

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    With full XTU control you would have TDP controls anyway.
     
  17. alucasa

    alucasa Notebook Evangelist

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    That's a wise choice. 1600 x 900 is the sweetspot for 13 ~ 14 inch. I've gone to Sony shop as well and took a look at FHD on a 13 inch laptop. There is no way for me to use such a screen for a long period. The text is just too small. Great screen, yes. I just did not find it practical.

    But I can't seem to find a way to downgrade the screen in Canada except for DIY medthod, so I am leaning toward Lenovo Y410p instead.
     
  18. alphabetagaga

    alphabetagaga Notebook Consultant

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    who are you ordering from? looking at one of the uk dealers

    https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/optimusV-13/

    there is only the one screen choice, 1920 x 1080
     
  19. cybernick01

    cybernick01 Notebook Consultant

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    Why don't you just set the desktop to 1600x900? Sure it's not Ideal, but I don't think it's too noticeable.
    I prefer to have the choice and not be stuck at the lower res. Plus there are a lot of optimizations... zooms, the scale (or whatever the name) for win8 and mac, partially for win7.
    And you don't lose the desktop space.
    Frankly, it's a matter of taste at the end. I just think that if you're going to change a high quality panel just for the text, then it should be for something unfixable.
     
  20. Benchmade 42

    Benchmade 42 Titanium

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    The problem with 1600x900 or 1366x768 screen is not the resolution, it's just that those screens tend to be of low quality tn panel with low color gamut, low contrast ratio and higher black cdm levels with bad viewing angles. You should go with the FHD since it is a high quality IPS panel with better srgb coverage plus you can always downscale to 1600x900 or 1366x768 or you can always increase the size of the text/icons from 100% to 125% staying at FHD.
     

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