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  1. NotTechSavvy

    NotTechSavvy Newbie

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    Hello y'all,

    I should begin by saying that my username holds true and I am not that tech savvy, whatever I have learnt has been from this thread and excessive amount of recent research about laptops and how they work.

    Now, I have been following this thread for a while as I got the PowerSpec 1520, but I replaced the first two units I got, one for a faulty spacebar key and the second one because it seemed like it was used by someone before (with personal files on the computer) and when I opened up the back-plate to have a look at the internals and it was riddled with fingerprints and significant scuff marks on the inner plastic of the back plate. I should mention, the second one seemed to run really cool, without any repaste but with UV and GPU OC, it gave pretty good temps and benchmark scores and I was iffy about returning it, as I was concerned that I might be at the short-end by spinning the wheel on a new replacement. But I ended up replacing it anyway, and I do regret it.

    I still haven't tested my new unit or have a look at the internals, but the biggest issue I noticed as of right now is that there is pretty bad keyboard flex/weakness. And it happens to be around the O and P keys and the surrounding areas. It is bad enough to where if I am typing lightly I feel a difference with depression in and around that part and it is an unpleasant typing experience. Now, I don't remember it being this way on the last two units. Also the rest of the keyboard is very sturdy, but the O-P part happens to be very bothersome.

    Micro-center happens to be an hour or more away and I have been there twice after to replace this unit. I am quite certain they're as tired of me as I am of them, now I would want to travel there again. I don't know if this is a common issue and I just didn't see it before and am overthinking it now. Or I got handed and bad unit and I should just get a refund/replacement. The value was just too good for me to pass up, but now the opportunity cost of it all considering that I have been there to replace it twice and PowerSpec QC isn't as reliable as the re-sellers online seems way to high for another replacement and then hope to not find faults again.

    I am hoping someone who has this unit or the PB51 can help me with my keyboard flex query and/or tell me what seems to be an issue with mine and if I can just fix it myself. Or advise me if I should just return it.

    Sorry for the long post, I wanted to start off on these forums with the reviews of the two units I had with the data I collected and stuff. But sadly it had to be this query. Hopefully I will post those once I am done keeping an actual unit.

    Thank you for your patience and help.
     
  2. ManlyMcbeardface

    ManlyMcbeardface Notebook Enthusiast

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    I bought my 1520 about a week ago. I haven’t had any issues with my unit whatsoever. However, I think your pint about QC being a crap shoot is valid. The first unit that they gave me had fan issues and thankfully they agreed to install an extra stick of ram for free or I would have been returning the unit the next day. Thankfully, the second unit they gave me has been fine in every way. I didn’t notice a flex in the keyboard at all either. I thought it was incredibly rigid and the keys had a lot of throw.
     
  3. LanceAvion

    LanceAvion Notebook Deity

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    Honestly, I would just return your unit form MicroCenter and get the Clevo PB51EF-G from GenTechPC: https://www.gentechpc.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Sager-NP8356-Build

    Why, do you ask? Well, there are a few reasons.

    1. The price is about the same. The PowerSpec 1520 unit I purchased from MicroCenter was $1624 after taxes. With GenTechPC there are no taxes unless you live in California, so my customized unit was $1638 after a $50 cash discount.
    2. For that price, my GenTech unit has a few advantages over the 1520. This included LM (Liquid Metal) thermal paste on the CPU/GPU, Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on the surrounding components, dual channel RAM (2x 8GB sticks), and a unit that just looks better with no labels and black colour.
    3. You do lose some things, however. These include the Windows Pro Install (it's +$70 for Home and +$120 for Pro) and storage (you can add a 256GB SSD for +$45 however). These didn't matter much to me because I always go for a fresh install of Windows anyway (which is very easy to do) and I have my own storage to add, which is cheaper to do aftermarket anyways. This is also true for RAM, but unfortunately removing the RAM was not an option.
    The biggest downside is that you have to wait longer, as there is a 5-10 business day time frame while they build your unit, and then you have to wait for shipping. There are rush options for a premium, but when it comes to LM and Fujipoly application, you can't have it rushed. Given that the better cooling is a primary reason why's say go with GenTech ver MicroCenter, this wait can't really be avoided. I haven't received mines yet, but when I do I'll provide a quick rundown on how it functions compared to the 1520. Until then here's a quick overview of the Clevo PB51EF-G from GenTech themselves:

     
  4. ManlyMcbeardface

    ManlyMcbeardface Notebook Enthusiast

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    Why was your purchase over $1600 bucks? Mine was $1656 with an extra 16gb of ram. The laptop was price $1499 at my local store.
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Was that with tax?
     
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  6. LanceAvion

    LanceAvion Notebook Deity

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    $1499.99 + $123.75(tax) = $1623.74 total
     
  7. beaups

    beaups New Jack Hustler

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    Looks like $1964 if you want 500GB SSD and Windows 10 Pro. Hardly the "same price" to me.
     
  8. NotTechSavvy

    NotTechSavvy Newbie

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    I was really hoping some people would've mentioned they too had the weird flex on the keyboard. Getting another laptop, setting it all up again and again is getting tiring. I figured the flex near the O-P was weird because I don't seem to remember noticing it on the previous two units.

    If anyone has any advise on if it is DIY fixable or they seem to have the same issue, I am looking forward to a response/help. Thanks.
     
  9. NotTechSavvy

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    Hey,

    Thank you for your reply.
    I was looking at unit from GenTech initially and then found the 1520, the time was a really big factor when I went for the 1520. Although now the amount of time I have invested in having a good 1520 seems bad too.
    Your points about cooling an such are really valid. But I figured I could get a cheaper unit and just repaste by myself later. Thanks for the help though and hopefully your PB51 unit ends up being awesome
     
  10. Ashlander

    Ashlander Notebook Consultant

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    I have some slight flex there, but not enough to be noticeable unless I'm looking for it. It's all pretty solid underneath the keyboard so I don't know why yours would have much flex.
     
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