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  1. dnak_ebloa

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    The ORIGINAL CLEVO P950EP6 thread

    Reviews, owners experiences, or indeed ANY information on this thin and light 8750h Clevo laptop are welcome. This model has options for 1060 and 1070 Max-Q, 144hz 1080p or 60HZ 4K screen, is less than 2cm thick and weighs just under 2kg...happy chatting!

    Here it is for sale in the UK, under the name Defiance XS II -https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceXS-II-15/
     
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    This is my first comment and since I couldn't find any info on this device when I was buying, I want to say a few words. I have this laptop for a week. Well, I have the version called P955EP6, but it is basically the same device except a design difference. The chassis and the cooling solution is the same with the previous generation P95xHP6 series so there is not much to comment on that. Good sturdy aluminum alloy chassis. I have the 144hz panel and it does not have any bleeding. I like it but I don't have much experience with the panels. It looks good to me.

    Performancewise, I am very happy with it. I was able to undervolt the CPU about -0.150v and it runs smoothly. In a demanding stress test like Prime95, the CPU stays at 3.4 ghz on all cores at around 90 degrees. I think for a test like P95, you cannot get any better than this among 8th gen i7 laptops. It scores 4987 on single core, 22214 on multicore geekbench test. If you check the scores for new XPS 15 (https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?dir=desc&q=xps+15+9570&sort=multicore_score), this is really at the high-end of the distribution. In Cinebench, it scored 1255 while maintaining 3.9 ghz on all cores throughout the test. So even though it has gtx 1060 instead of a 1070, the score is really good and in some cases even better than a 1070 laptop. Fans could get loud but it is a compromise if you want it to run your components at their best. I really tried to find something bad about it since I am really picky in this stuff but I couldn't. Great value-performance.
     
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    Hi Hegel, thanks for the details here. The 950 comes with Max-q gpu's, so maybe that's what distinguishes it from yours - in fact I really wonder what distinguishes it (any ideas)? Hopefully the max-q's will help keep the temps low. But that Cinebench score is seriously excellent, better than most others i've seen. Key question for me is: what's the keyboard like? Would loved to have got the new TongFang thin, bezzleless laptop, but the keyboard looks terrible, a complete deal breaker. And also, on the PCspecialist uk site it lists 1 x M.2 drive and an option for Intel Optane...I thought Optane used M.2 slots, or is this slot Optane only?


    Oh, and two other questions. How much of a fingerprint magnet is it? Is it silent on idle?
     
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    WE sell the P955 version which is cosmetically different, as the Schenker Key 15 - this is with the 1060 and 1070 MAX-Q options.As with the P950 versions, it has 1x M.2 and 1x 2.5" driove spaces. The main difference is the CPU update from 7th Gen to 8th Gen. At least on the P955 side which we sell, the versions are basically identical apart from the CPU. AS @hegel said - though all are with the MAX-Q versions.
     
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    Ok, thanks. My uk supplier (PcSpecialist) are offering 1 x M.2, 1 x 2.5" drive space AND an option for Optane?!? This is odd, right? Surely the Optane slot requires an M.2 slot so could be filled another M.2 drive if needed instead of the Optane?

    Also, i don't suppose you know if the model is completely silent on idle? (all the other models, except the MSI Stealth (35DB on idle), have reported low (40-ish DB), but audible, fan noise). I'm hoping the Max-Q's would help on this aspect.
     
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    I can't see where PCS are offering Optane, but the chassis supports it. There is however definitely only 1x 2.5", 1x M.2, 1x mSATA WLAN and 1x 3G modle (factory option from Clevo).

    Noise - if you have a look in the review of the previous gen model https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-Technologies-Key-15-Clevo-P955HP6-Laptop-Review.284500.0.html you can see that at idle all the models listed under "Noise Emmissions" seem to beat the MSI one you mentioned. On load there are of course differences. I could share our own DB readings on idle and load, but they're conducted in the proper fashion rather than what most review sites do which is at the user head average distance at say 45cm and not 1m.
     
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    It is perfecty quiet when idle. When you are not gaming, the laptop switches to integrated GPU so it sucks little power and creates less heat. I had a Thinkpad before, of course that was an excellent keyboard for typing. This is not as good as a Thinkpad. Most important thing for me to feel the pressing. I like good travel distance and rigidness. In that sense, the keyboard is definitely not a deal breaker. It is okay for my taste. I have fingerprints all over the device all the time. To be honest, I don't care. But yea.
     
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