*** Official Clevo P870TM-R Owner's Lounge - Phoenix 5 ***

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  1. jc_denton

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    Actually I think Prema bios does support larger modules, since you have an option to enable it in the bios. @Prema
     
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  2. electrosoft

    electrosoft Tick Tock Clarice....

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    It does. I saw it as an option under the Bios on my unit while poking around.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    @Prema any thoughts on the ram situation?
     
  4. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge
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    craum Notebook Enthusiast

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    Quick question... Did g-sync support on the 3K panels for the P870TM-R ever become a thing? Ie for the B173QTN01.0 & 4?

    Thx for any info you have.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I don't think they ever passed validation.
     
  8. craum

    craum Notebook Enthusiast

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    My new EVOC P870TM-R DTR notebook!

    Hi friends,

    Thank you for the advice/observations you had for me in my earlier "Deciding between an EVOC P775TM-R and P870TM-R" thread. I'm now ready to replace the ASUS ROG G751JY-DH71 gaming laptop I've used for five years, with the EVOC P870TM-R DTR notebook!

    Whenever I make a big decision, my decision-making process tends to go as an exponentially decaying sinusoid. The first maximum positive swing was when I was all excited about the Area 51m. I was ready to pull the trigger within the week! Then the more I learned the more I came to realize it was a bad choice for a variety of reasons. That was the maximum negative swing.

    Then I oscillated between the P870 and P775 (and GT76) until I settled logically on the former. One of the reasons for my choice (other than excellent thermals and build), was the relative stability of the configuration (esp compared to the newer 51m and GT76). Like my G751, I do not intend to do much in the way of upgrading. Therefore the EOL status of the P870 wasn't a liability. Converging on my DTR solution was aided by lurking in these forums, and via one @Donald@HIDevolution (since I decided to buy from his company). As you have all read from numerous other accounts, Donald was patient, and gave alternatives based on my expectations and desires (including the upcoming X170), and not necessarily towards the biggest immediate profit for his company. I think this corporate culture speaks, in part, to the company's long term success in this competitive market.

    After a bit of a rough ordering process (Zelle really isn't meant for large cash purchases), as of last Friday the parts were on order and I should have the machine, the M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank of DTR's, by the beginning of March. Just in time for Half-Life Alyx at max settings!

    My configuration includes the 9900KS and RTX2080, but I am providing my own memory (2 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB), my own storage (Samsung SSD 860 EVO 4TB) and my own ram (?? Kingston HyperX Impact 2 to 4 x 16GB 2933MHz DDR4 CL17 ??). I'll be installing my own Windows 10 Education version (may as well since it's free from work).

    I hope the group won't mind my leaning on them for advice going forward - in particular choosing the fastest (CL included) RAM the system can reliably use based on other's experiences. Side question, why does the CL speed tend to decrease (lower is better) as the clock speed decreases (even though higher is better). CL14/2400MHz to CL20/3200MHz... Why can't I order Kingston HyperX 3200MHz with CL14 (would that even work - without heavy tuning - in the P870)?

    For those using a fast SSD such as the 970 EVO Plus, are M.2 heatsinks mandatory? What can the P870 chassis accommodate? Just a thin copper strip? Or a low profile heatsink w/ fins?

    And finally, is paying ~$40 for Obsidian Fan Control worth it over the Clevo Control Center? How about the Obsidian Updater app (just a gimmick for the lazy?)?

    Thanks one and all for your previous advice, and any future guidance you can give as I prepare for my M1 to arrive.

    Cheers
     
  9. jc_denton

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    The sweetspot for performance/dollar is ~3200Mhz, CL16/18 and can be tuned further down with some patience, given you get single ranked 8Gb modules with something like B-die.
     
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    craum Notebook Enthusiast

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    OK, thanks for the info. The following site seems to be a good database for available memory sets.

    https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

    I'm still learning some of the lexicon of the community, though. What does "single ranked" modules mean?
     
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