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  1. Nikaidoboss

    Nikaidoboss Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone experienced help me please.
    Im between Clevo 1080 with 4k GSYNC
    Clevo 1070 SLI with 4k Gsync
    MSI 1080 with 4k Gsync
    MSI 1070 SLI with 4k Gysnc
    or the same but with 120hz panels
     
  2. Mr. Fox

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    Well, that is interesting. Thanks for sharing that video. +5 rep.

    So... stock 1070 x 1 almost the same as stock 980M SLI (1070 better by a tiny fraction). I wonder if that holds true with both configurations massively overclocked, or if 1070 will stumble and fall back to second place when overvolted and pushed as hard as it can be? That's what I want to know. Stock performance is nice, but not as important as maxed out overclocked/overvolted performance. I bench more than I play games, and there is no point in running benchmarks at stock clocks... boring.

    What I want to now is how 1070 SLI, 1080 SLI and 980 SLI (all notebook GPUs) compare at stock and with their maximum stable overclocked/overvolted states. This will be the defining moment since single GPU setups are boring to me. If Pascal has a lower tolerance for overclocking it is going to be disappointing for overclockers.
     
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  3. Nikaidoboss

    Nikaidoboss Notebook Enthusiast

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    wo
    Wouldnt 1070 SLI be better with 4k Gsync panels
    I was moslty thinking
    1080 with 120hz or 1070 SLI with 4k
     
  4. bradleyjb

    bradleyjb Notebook Consultant

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    So .... now that our existing P870DMs are yesterday's, will there be a way to get/purchase/request the Prema Bios and vbios? I bought mine from a forum member, and while it has been great, it is obvious I am missing something. I have @HTWingNut's review model (4th owner I believe) which didn't overclock as much as others it seems.
     
  5. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    SLI will only perform ideally synthetically with benchmarking. It's not worth the additional cost.
     
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  6. Nikaidoboss

    Nikaidoboss Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am just worried 1080 will not be able to run demanding games at 120FPS
    How bad is not running games at 100+ on 120HZ Panels
    and What is better running games at 40-50FPS with Gsync and 4k
    or 100FPS wih 1080P and 120hz panel

    My options are
    Clevo 1080 with 4k GSYNC
    Clevo 1070 SLI with 4k Gsync
    MSI 1080 with 4k Gsync
    MSI 1070 SLI with 4k Gysnc
    or the same but with 120hz panels
     
  7. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's a new world with the higher power 1080/1070 SLI, with enough power to drive many games at 60hz @ 4k, but too early to tell the quality of the 4k displays.

    For Windows work 4K on a small screen can be problematic with bad scaling, small unreadable fonts in menus, and scaling down to 1080 isn't as sharp.

    It's a tough call, but I would go with the 1080p 120hz for the internal display and get a large 21:9 1440p or 16:9 2160 external screen.

    4k draws more power on battery too... and would be driven by the iGPU or gimped dGPU.

    It all comes down to $. If you can afford the 1070 SLI that would be what I would get in the MSI GT73VR or PM870DM*, or 1080 SLI in the MSI GT83VR or PM870DM3.

    It's going to come down to performance results from reviews and user benchmarks done in the hands of a skilled OC / tuner.

    The PM870DM* will get Prema's fine tuning to get best performance.

    There really isn't enough info to make a fully informed choice, so be prepared to return your first purchase if you get a configuration that doesn't match your needs the first time.
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Windows scaling isn't an issue if you change the resolution, adjust the text size, and restart the PC. I ran Windows 10 as such perfectly fine on my last PC.

    If you change the resolution in-game or without restarting, then yes, you'll have issues.
     
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    Exactly...

    It always comes down to this. The majority of the professional reviews can be taken with a grain of salt.
     
  10. Nikaidoboss

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    So If I go with 120HZ Panels. would 1070 SLI be worth or would it cause more issues even if I can afford it vs 1080 that is.

    Also between MSI/Clevo ( i have GT70 MSI laptop that I had for 3 years and I havent touched it since then and its working perfect until now so I trust MSI)
    Clevo tho has the 6700K CPU. would I get almost same performance if I get MSI 6820 and OC it to 3.6ghz or close ?
     
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