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  1. otto_kahn

    otto_kahn Notebook Consultant

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    What is the difference between P870DM3 and P870KM1?
    The only difference being the chipset, on paper. Z170 and Z270
    Does it affect performance? I read that there is no difference if a skylake processor is used. Some new technologies are coming in the kabyleke processors with the z270.
     
  2. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Nope. No difference in performance. Nothing but a gimmick to give Intel something new to sell. Z270 has Optane, which isn't anything to be excited about. (Kind of a flop for Intel, LOL.) I am unable to identify anything that is actually better about Z270.

    Technically, the DM3 is a better machine than the KM1. Better cooling system and @Prema had fewer firmware throttle cancer issues to patch with the DM3. The stock KM1 system BIOS was a real abortion. Clevo kind of wimped out on the vapor chamber with the KM1 and started cutting corners where they actually needed to do better.

    If you buy from a Prema Partner Shop and have a DM3 you can run a 7700K in it as good or better than 7700K works with the Z270 chipset in the KM1.
     
  3. Stress Tech

    Stress Tech Notebook Evangelist

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    Newer Z270 chipset,
    Extra PCI-E express lanes,
    giving KM1 an extra M.2 SSD slot,
    RAID5 support,
    Optane memory support,
    KM1 has TB JHL6540 and DM3 has the older TB DSL6540 controller,

    Some KM1's have the DM3 heat sink kits which have:
    1x GPU heat pipe missing,
    There is gaps on the heat sink fins where the fan air exits.

    In performance wise though is still the same lol: like what Mr Fox said:
     
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  4. otto_kahn

    otto_kahn Notebook Consultant

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    I am asking this question, I am talking to a friend for your old machine :)
    in fact I use programs that require multiple cores. the computer needs to be under 100% load for a long time. I could not decide between 7700k and 8700k (Is it worth the price difference?)
     
  5. Mr. Fox

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    So, you must have meant the TM1 with Z370 chipset. Yes, there is a massive improvement going from 7700K to 8700K. I have lost interest in 7700K now because of it.
     
  6. otto_kahn

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    I was actually looking for tm1, but this device came in coincidence.
     
  7. clayton006

    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    Just an update to a post I made here a few months ago. Sager has finally emailed me with a TPM firmware update for the mass TPM vulnerability that was identified back in October. If you are looking for it I suggest you reach out to Sager support directly unless it is posted on their site somewhere.

    I’ll have to give this a try today.


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  8. Meaker@Sager

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    Frimware is provided on request, so yes anyone who wants it is welcome to email support for it.
     
  9. NuclearLizard

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    Does anyone here have experience with tb3 to 10gb Ethernet?

    I'm planning out a build to host my steam library among other things on a nas/server and I'm hoping to get some insight.

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  10. Meaker@Sager

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    It's got the bandwidth, ease of use and final speed is going to depend on the adaptor and any daisy chaining on the port.
     
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