*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOK's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    I think as this Msi use socket i7, we can tolerate a side step:D
     
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  2. Cass-Olé

    Cass-Olé Notebook Evangelist

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    @saturnotaku > as a roaming member of the public, I've cherry-picked some quotes from a forum member, whose tried to encapsulate Clevo-World, as it were; the quotes above link to a larger Manifesto for anyone wishing to go there to inspect it line-by-line, but my question to you Sir: is yours a plastic box bereft of build quality & poor engineering, or is this simple posturing & grand standing found in the quotes that reside of above me? (One thermal complaint was easily cured within minutes with an undervolt, while the laptop in question was described as
    I've watched your UTube & you seem like a fine honest fellow trying to enjoy his desktop / MXM enthusiast-class product & would like to know how little or how much you may or may not share these sentiments after your special unboxing today. For instance, did a lack of screen options bother you? ... more important, how did the prospect of Kabylake 7700k slipping into your machine soon (while selling 6700k to offset the cost) factor into your LGA purchase? Thoughts on your Rental Car? Reply in any way that feels natural please

    Some context of course: in the Dellware forum, we as a community tend to behave there with a sort of License to Ill, overcome with emotions & a certain flair for the dramatic in defense or derision of the product & the company, I'm sure you understand. However this particular post & its quotes seem to have been written with a sober reasoning I might liken to a 'wake-up call', that in some sense the Clevo buyer is automatically smacked by a cold harsh reality from the moment the box is opened that inferiority has crept into & undermined the purchase somehow, & since yours is a brand new unboxing I wondered if that comports to your reality there, for obvious reasons. I'll also set this here where it needs to be, knowing it isn't an isolated remark:
    edit: iUnlock can be found all over this place calling 775 a decent effort, if you will, I await his unboxing vid & for weeks now, & this member needs to be credited with having equally positive outlooks on Clevo's, which I tried to do, bring a quote in for balance against the 1st

    Since I do not own a Clevo, follow-ups to my post & any subsequent posts would best be fielded by bona-fide owners &/or potential owners. What I will say is that constructive & non-constructive criticism alike can drive these companies to offer better products, & NBR is as fine a place as any to air one's grievances in public. I have no arm-chair grievance I wish to record at the moment but may later, since those are best left to 1st hand owner's of whom companies may listen to faster than lil ol' me; here I've cornered an owner for their opinion, against the stereo-typical owner which was painted for us inside the four-corners of the quotes & I've asked for the reality as it's played out during & after an unboxing. I'm not obligated to respond to comments I never made

    New remark beneath me: It would be far fetched to try and defend the reality of what we know is to be true. I've asked for a true picture of reality, since these realities unfold on a one-by-one basis. @|Saturn isn't Linus with a ringer unit; his thoughts on far-fetchedness or the contrary is what I'd like to be reading right about now if it wasn't bedtime which it is
     
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  3. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    I can see your point, but I hope that you can see mine as well. It would be far fetched to try and defend the reality of what we know is to be true. So let me ask:

    For a computer that cost thousands of dollars, do you think that there is a lack of quality control with Clevo's or are they superb in your eyes?

    Is it acceptable to you for the CPU and GPU to be running in the 90C's and even reaching 100C out of the box? (1080SLI...doesn't matter, there is a point to be made here.)

    Depending on how you answer these questions, we may just have to agree to disagree, because the real answers to these questions are very defined without the influences of any ones opinions, including mine.

    What isn't grand standing is the fact that there are serious quality control issues here with Clevo's. Although they are not for the novice, a product that is barely hanging on in a category we're so trying to keep alive, it sure doesn't seem like they are doing such a grand of a job wouldn't you agree? There are more issues here than just quality control, or whatever you want to call it, but we don't have to get into that here.

    It's important to understand that although the majority of us don't mind repasting, tweaking, tearing it part and adding our own touch to make it our own; there also exists a good portion of those who want the power, but don't want to mess with anything else beyond upgrading the RAM and SSD. That is okay too. So the question is, "Is it fair or is it right for these people to be stuck with a machine that can't even cool itself properly out of the box?" - The answer is obvious.

    Honestly, I don't mind the heat issues and want the challenge to defeat it, because as we've seen, it can be done. However, what is NOT okay is for Clevo to take advantage of this to justify their lack of QC. That's the point being made here mate.

    Regarding my quote about the 870 and 775...I'm not sure why you've bothered to even quote that, but I just wanted to point out that it clearly states, "IMO," (In My Opinion) and I was referring to the design. So what's your point?
     
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  4. ccarollo

    ccarollo Notebook Consultant

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    Well, first, not sure why there's any discussion of 1080 SLI here, that's not an option available on the P755DM.

    Secondly, my current Clevo is three years old, goes back and forth to work with me every day, and is still working like a champ. Not a single thing wrong with it. So I'm personally really happy with Clevo's quality control.

    Finally, I guess I wonder how many people are seeing those temps under normal usage, versus simultaneously pushing every component as hard as possible. If it's the latter, I don't think it's a big deal. If it's the former, that's something they should fix, but honestly these are enthusiast notebooks, and if the solution is a little bit of undervolting, that's something I'm totally fine with.

    I should be getting mine in the next couple weeks, and as more people get theirs, we'll see what the sentiment is among a broader swath of users.
     
  5. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    I agree in that it's important to not look at these machines through the googles of only OC'ing, but do keep in mind that even though a user does not OC, simply playing a resource demanding game can push things to a pretty high altitude.

    To clarify your confusion about the mention of a 1080SLI, it was just an example to support what I was referring to.

    We shall all know soon enough.
     
  6. Tony Palmer

    Tony Palmer Notebook Evangelist

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    ordered this GELID Solutions Extreme Performance GC-3 going to repaste both CPU and GPU tomorrow hopefully see a difference with this paste. I'm only re-pasting due to not believing that it's been done well the first time. I'll post results compared to how it's running now and to after.
     
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  7. Tony Palmer

    Tony Palmer Notebook Evangelist

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    anyone seen any videos of a dm3-g being disassembled?
     
  8. Joichiro

    Joichiro Notebook Consultant

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    There's one in YT but it's in quick speed so you have to pause every second almost

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
  9. Tony Palmer

    Tony Palmer Notebook Evangelist

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    P775DM3-G?
     
  10. Joichiro

    Joichiro Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah it was a p775dm3 definitely I recognized it because of the way the heat pipes were arranged when the guy took off the bottom panel

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