*** Official Clevo P65xSA/SE/SG / Sager NP8650/51/52 Owner´s Lounge ***

Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jaybee83, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. playag135

    playag135 Newbie

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    This is what I was told when I had an order with them.

    "The FHD IPS will most likely be the AUO B156HAN01.2 but we don't know until we get them, it could also be an LG"
     
  2. jamiemac

    jamiemac Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all,

    I am thinking about buying a P650SG from Metabox over here in Australia. I previously had an order in for the Gigabyte P35X V3 but issues with heat and unavailability caused me to cancel that. Reading this thread sounds a lot more positive than the Gigabyte owners lounge - I'll especially be interested to hear what Cakefish has to say about his new toy when it arrives (compared to the P35X).
    There's only one thing that's really holding me back at the moment. I would like either a 3K or 4K screen (haven't decided which yet!) so am thinking an 8Gb 980 would be the way to go. AFAIK, Clevo/Metabox/Sager don't offer the P650 with an 8Gb card, yet they will put an 8Gb 980 in their P157 which only comes with a 1080p screen.

    Surely it makes more sense to have more VRAM in a higher res screen? Does anyone know if Clevo/Metabox/Sager plan to release the P650 with an 8Gb card?

    Thanks in advance
    JamieMac

    ps - any advice on whether to go for the 3K or 4K screen? I'm looking at playing Wargame, other RTS's, Far Cry 4 etc. Happy that I may have to dial down the quality settings for 3K/4K at times, but which screen should look best running at 1080P for future games?
     
  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    very unlikely that an 8GB vram version will ever be released. also, its not a "card" per se, since that would imply an exchangeable part, which it is not, but rather a soldered component. as opposed to that, the p150/p170 series have exchangeable mxm cards, where installation of more vram is way easier than tracing extra vram on a motherboard with soldered gpu.

    the only one who can make changes to the motherboard design and thus the gpu vram size would be clevo, sager and other resellers wouldnt have a say in it, only influence in clevo´s decision-making to a restricted degree.

    as for the screens: seriously, i just dont understand why so many people are opting for a 3K screen! scaling to 1080p with a 3K screen just doesnt make any sense when comparing the same scaling with a 4K screen, since the latter would scale 2x2 pixels into one, whereas the 3K screen cannot work with integers, resulting into something like 1.5x1.5 pixels for one scaled pixel at 1080p, thus one can expect way more blurriness!

    just my 2c

    cheers
     
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  4. jamiemac

    jamiemac Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the advice Jaybee, I guess I'll probably take the plunge and go for the 4Gb card, but I was wondering just how much VRAM current and near-future games area likely to need.
    I had thought the exact same thing about the scaling of a 4K screen vs the 3K, but I don't suppose there's much chance of running many games at native resolution at all. Maybe more of a chance at 3K, but I suppose it all comes down to how much you are happy to lower quality settings.
     
  5. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    its not about native scaling, but rather interpolation of 3K/4K to 1080p, exactly BECAUSE native scaling would have too large of an performance impact. id just expect 4K to interpolate way better to 1080p compared to 3K because of the above stated reason :)
     
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  6. kingyr

    kingyr Notebook Consultant

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    Definitely agree with what you have said jaybee83, in fact the was the whole reason to why I wanted to upgrade to 4K later on as it should interpolate better at 1080p. But since having owned this machine, I'm extremely happy with performance and temps at 3k res also what it actually looks like when I switch to 1080p, it is not that bad at all, actually barely noticeable unless you really look at it. I'm even forgetting about the upgrade to 4K that I had planned for Jan/Feb. Good thing is that upgrade will always be available if I get tired of 3k that is. Screen is absolutely stunning no matter how odd the native resolution is and I would recommend it in a heartbeat :)
     
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  7. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    Yet 1080p scaled to 3K looks mighty fine on the Panasonic screen. Trust me, I had a P35X v3. If 1080p on a 4K display looks even better, then we're all in for a seriously scrumptious treat for the eyes.

    11:30AM and still no signs of activity at Scan. If it doesn't dispatch today I'm writing a letter of complaint to Scanta; the Scan elves are slacking, not acceptable!

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
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    jdenquin Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've just amend my order on PC Specialist from 3K to Sharp 4K display, dont know if I made a good choice but all review for this sharp panel are good, I've to wait one more week and this beast will be in my hands!
     
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    kingyr Notebook Consultant

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    Damn straight it would on that 4K ;) lets see if i can hold out on this "upgrade" in jan LOL. But still love this screen.
     
  10. bmac1632

    bmac1632 Notebook Guru

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    I would think the 980m would be the more limiting factor in 4K gaming than the vram. Single GPUs just can't handle that resolution yet. If you want 4K, you would have to get SLI.

    Note: I am talking about AAA type games and not Indies.
     
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