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  1. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    These two pics - it's clear that Clevo has improved much on the W230SS. That side and back profile all say it's an evolution, a re-thinking of the W230SS. So reminiscent, yet so different.
    That's a cramped PCB, indeed. I like the shared heat-pipes and the dual fans, though - certainly going to keep things cool, as well as allowing some decent OC headroom. I like it. Once again, it shows that Clevo has improved on the W230SS design - back-facing instead of side-facing heatsinks and exhaust vents, as well as chips that are near the fans, and not halfway across the board.

    A pity that the battery is so small, borderline anaemic. I only notice one M.2 SSD slot (below the fan on the left) and one SATA plug - is there a second M.2 slot on the other side? Also, looks like this machine has been in production for a while, looking at the dates - they go as far back as July and August, when this thread hadn't opened yet.

    I completed the survey, even though I'm probably not buying this from XMG.

    I'd also rather this come with 4 GB (or 6 GB even) of VRAM, and a Pascal GPU. 3 GB certainly won't cut it for my flight simulation. Hopefully Clevo re-does this model for next year, with a 1065M/1070M (if they're even called that).
     
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  2. DataShell

    DataShell Notebook Deity

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    You're going to be holding your breath for a looooong time if you're waiting on mobile Pascal.
     
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    XMG Company Representative

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    Thank you everyone for your encouraging comments and for taking part in our survey. We already gathered some valuable insights. It looks like over 40% of you would take the i7-6820HK into consideration - that's more than what we expected.

    Clevo is still fine-tuning the thermal solution in regard to i7-6820HK. One of our press reviews will be supplied with i7-6820HK so you can expect some real-world results soon!

    No, it's one m.2 and one 2.5" slot for storage.
     
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    I don't mind, really. I'd rather wait for the newest. I expect it'll come out exactly a year from now. My 860M will last me at least another year, if not two. My sister's laptop from 2011 with a i7-2630QM and a GT 525M is still going strong. It just needs an SSD, and boom, magical speed boost.

    That's really unfortunate. I don't know how others see it, but... worse battery life, only one M.2 slot (while the W230SS has two mSATA slots), no full dGPU mode and hence no G-Sync, as well as fully BGA and soldered chips?

    This laptop is two-thirds a downgrade from the W230SS. The only 'upgrades' are the screen size and the GTX 970M, and perhaps metal chassis.

    Even Clevo is going the Razer Blade route.
     
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    pau1ow Notebook Deity

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    What about a bigger battery ? It's a shame that a 14's only gets a 45Wh battery compared to what is already offered on the market :(
     
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    ldkv Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah the small battery is really a big put off. What the point of making a smaller laptop (more mobile) with less battery (less mobile) :(

    Guess I will stick with my P650SG for another 1-2 years.
     
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    riklaunim Notebook Enthusiast

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    Specs list one M.2 for storage and second M.2 for WiFi/Bluetooth card... but also inner slots - 3xM.2 (storage, wifi, 4G/LTE) so it's a bit of inconsistent. It has to have at least two of them.


    I use and liked W110ER a lot. It had a very rigid keyboard, was very silent for it components and had nice rubbery plastic. Two disadvantages where to small keys (they just need to be bit bigger like on some modern 11.6" designs) and one storage option (I would really like SSD for daily Linux and HDD for storage and Windows for example ;))

    W110ER also had an external battery, which was quite big for such laptop - and allowed a very long battery life if GTX was not used, and CPU wasn't stressed.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    There will be some options from clevo, but one full m.2 for storage yes.

    As always it's a trade off, get rid of the 2.5" bay for a larger battery and a 2nd m.2, now you can only offer SSD storage and the machine gets more expensive.

    Over the W230S series you get a drive that's faster than a raid set of Msata drives, far higher performance, plus there are no mobile sockets anymore.

    With the 6820hk a socket is pretty much pointless anyway.
     
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    Fair enough, but I'd rather not compromise on anything relevant to storage and battery life. It's more or less why I chose the W230SS over the Blade (notwithstanding the 50% price reduction). I wouldn't mind downgrading the CPU and GPU in place for slightly worse cooling to match the weaker specs, and in return get to run two OSes on different SSDs, and run them for six hours instead of four on one charge of battery.

    With all due respect: I find that putting in a K-series chip in such a small machine in itself is pointless, whatever the power users say. 6700HQ is more than enough, and even if this is Skylake, I've seen how badly the 4710MQ heats up. Granted, this has better thermal design and all, but putting an unlocked CPU chip in a small laptop is borderline heresy. Once again, I'm a hard-core mid-ranger, and I do not like seeing excessive specs on small devices without the engineering to keep components cool. (read: Razer Blade).

    Laptops are small? Use mid-range stuff! Nothing more than a 965M or a 6700HQ.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The 970M is a no brainer really, it's more performance per watt than the 965m and is a big deal to keep up with the 1080p display over the next few years.

    The 6700HQ should be an option too.

    As a mid ranger the option of a single super fast PCI-E SSD plus 2TB HDD should excite you.
     
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