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  1. Penguissimo

    Penguissimo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Update on the 7970M RMA...

    Got the replacement card in this week, and I was going to install it myself, but then I found out that Mythlogic is only about 90 minutes away from me. Since they're way better at this than I am, I took the card to them, and they installed/tested it for a very reasonable fee. The good news—the card never got higher than 75 degrees C in their test! Of course I had to do some further testing when I got home, and a 6-hour session of Starcraft 2 (the only game I really play) seemed like just the ticket.

    The results? Never once did the framerate drop below 60 on ultra settings (and when I turned off vsync, it averaged in the low 90s). Even better, at the end of everything, the card had maxed out at 67 C! Coming from a system (2011 MacBook Pro) where I got ~40 fps on medium settings&#8212;with frequent drops to <1 fps during big battles&#8212;and the graphics card hit 80 degrees C just from launching the game, I'm absolutely awestruck :eek:

    Only complaint is that AMD's Linux drivers don't work with the card yet, but I'm sure that's only a matter of time, and the Intel HD 4000 is fine for what I do in Linux. Other than that, this is now easily the best computer I've ever owned, and big thanks to Larry at LPC and the Mythlogic guys for getting this thing to me and getting it working!
     
  2. Anthony2816

    Anthony2816 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Couple of questions about my Sager 9170:

    1. I can use the Fn key to turn off the touchpad (I use a trackball) and the keyboard backlight...but when I reboot, both are enabled again. Is there any way to make it remember my choices?

    2. Is there some way to disable the NumLk key? I want to keep it on all the time, but sometimes I accidentally hit it when aiming for the Backspace key.
     
  3. Mullac

    Mullac Newbie

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    Just ordered my p170em from pcspecialists in the UK.

    I have heard people have issues regarding headphone output, is it worth purchasing a FiiO headphone amp for this laptop? I am still to purchase a headset but I am leaning towards the Seinheisser 360 or Astro A40. What sort of results are you guys getting with your headphones?
     
  4. Couchking

    Couchking Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would definitely get an Amp/DAC combo of some sort. I'm by no means an audiophile, but the stock sound on these Clevos is terrible. I weighed out the cost/performance on a few different models and I ended up going with the Asus Xonar U3 USB sound card for $30. I was also looking at getting a Fiio e17 or one of the sound blaster USB cards, but I just couldn't justify that much money to improve sound on a 2k laptop.
     
  5. mince

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    The Xonar U3 goes really well with this notebook. I bought mine for two reasons: 1) Audio jack on the right side of the notebook seemed misplaced as that's where my mouse is located 2) I didn't get enough volume out of my headphones
    The Xonar U3 allows much higher volume at default and can even turn your headset into a speaker of some sort if you select "Exciter Mode" (Click the "hammer" icon under "Main") - awesome!

    I don't really get the "quality" thing though - I've never experienced a soundcard that produces "bad" audio once a headset is plugged in. (I use the Sennheiser PC 350) I've been comparing and trying hard to notice a difference but in vain.
    Perhaps someone can suggest an example for me to learn if I'm missing out on something here.

    PS: I recommend using the USB extension cable that comes with the Xonar U3
     
  6. lowfreq

    lowfreq Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok i have a really noob question guys but here it goes. whenever i close my laptop and it goes on sleep mode my wifi turns off and i have to turn it back on manually. Its really not that big of a deal but it was not doing that before so i was just wondering if this is normal and a default setting. (my first laptop)
     
  7. j0hnny_5

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    in case of any of you 680m owners werent already aware, On the official clevo site they released a new version of the Graphics driver yesterday. I installed it and my 3dmark11 score went up from the 7400's to a whopping 7950! still no 3d vision support yet though :(
     
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    I am replacing my 7970m for the 680m this week. Are the drivers on the clevo site the same as the drivers on the sager site?
     
  9. Rhombus

    Rhombus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys , long time Alienware Fan trying to break free.

    With my last Alienware being an Aurora R4 I got for half price thanks to some random voucher code they sent me.

    Anyway I wanted an upgrade from my M17x which is currently running
    an i7 q740 1.73 GHZ chip and dual HD5870 cards to a shiny new M18x.

    the larger screen was a draw and I've always stuck with Dual GPUs of late and continuing the trend seemed natural. However..£2,800 for the set up I chose with the i7 3820QM and dual 7970's man I dunno, even with 10% the Dell guy on the phone gave me I just couldn't justify pulling the trigger. My Aurora cost me £1200 because of the voucher but this time I just had to find a cheaper but as efficient option.

    So I came across PC specialist in the UK and a similar set up albeit no Crossfire , totalled up at £1,900. Now I agree thats still pretty costly but at £600 less than Dell even after discount , I musn't grumble.
    The only change being a single 4gb 680M card instead of the Crossfire 7970s which I'm led to believe have had a world of problems of late.
    Heres a run down of what Ive picked so far ,

    • Vortex Series:17.3" AUO Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080) (£85)
    • Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-3820QM (2.70GHz) 8MB
    • 8GB SAMSUNG 1333MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (2 x 4GB)
    • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680M - 4.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
    • 750GB SEAGATE MOMENTUS XT HYBRID, SATA 6 Gb/s, 32MB CACHE (7200 rpm)
    • 40GB INTEL® 310 mSATA MLC SSD - (mini PCIe SSD for extra storage)
    • 8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW
    • Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC & HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
    • ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
    • Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ HD-Audiophile-Grade Sound External (£82)
    • GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® ULTIMATE-N 6300 (450Mbps)
    • 3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD
    • 1 X 1394a FIREWIRE PORT
    • Vortex Series 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (5,200 mAh/76.96WH)
    • 1 x UK Power Lead & 220W AC Adaptor

    Plus this thing comes standard with a 3 year warranty. Sorry DELL but I'm gone. :)

    Any of you guys suggesting tweeks to the above please do specify.:p


    EDIT: Changed the CPU to the Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Extreme i7-3920XM (2.90GHz) 8MB (That alone from Dell is £900+ extra!!)



    Coughed up for the following.



    Chassis & Display
    Vortex Series: 17.3" Glossy Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Extreme i7-3920XM (2.90GHz) 8MB
    Memory (RAM)
    8GB SAMSUNG 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (2 x 4GB)
    Graphics Card
    NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680M - 4.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
    Memory - Hard Disk
    750GB WD SCORPIO BLUE WD7500BPVT, SATA 3 Gb/s, 8MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
    2nd Hard Disk
    500GB WD SCORPIO BLACK WD5000BPKT, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (7200 rpm)
    mSATA SSD Cache / Storage Drives
    40GB INTEL® 310 mSATA MLC SSD - (mini PCIe SSD for extra storage)
    DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
    Memory Card Reader
    Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC & HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
    Thermal Paste
    ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ HD-Audiophile-Grade Sound External (£82)
    Bluetooth & Wireless
    GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® ULTIMATE-N 6300 (450Mbps)
    USB Options
    3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD
    Firewire
    1 X 1394a FIREWIRE PORT
    Battery
    Vortex Series 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (5,200 mAh/76.96WH)
    Power Lead & Adaptor
    1 x UK Power Lead & 220W AC Adaptor
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
    Office Software
    FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)
    Anti-Virus
    NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
    Keyboard Language
    INTEGRATED BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
    Notebook Mouse
    INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
    Webcam
    INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
    Printer
    HP PHOTOSMART WIRELESS ALL-IN-ONE PRINTER - B110a (£72)
    Warranty
    3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
    Insurance
    1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
    Delivery
    PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON (£9)
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
    Quantity
    1


    This better be good :)
     
  10. mince

    mince Newbie

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    If you prefer a dual GPU setup you might want to wait for this notebook to come out.
    XMX Gaming Notebook K73-2S by: XMX - XMX Gaming Shop (click the red cart to see customization options)
    Keep the huge price gap of the 680m compared to the 7970m in mind though.

    PS: I'd change that msata for a standard samsung 830 128GB SSD
    (or a 128GB samsung msata if you need the extra disk slot- but those are more expensive)
    Samsung SSD 830 2.5inch SATA III 6GBps 128GB Notebook Accessory Kit with Free Norton Ghost 15: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
     
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