**Official Clevo N870HJ1,N870HK1 / Sager NP6870,NP6872 Owners Lounge**

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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKS = That sucks! Dont wast your $$ on FILTH

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    Ball grid array - Wikipedia
     
  2. N870HK1

    N870HK1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Was to my understanding that the processor chip can be unmounted from the ball grid array, yes / no?
     
  3. N870HK1

    N870HK1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Any ideas on what would happen if I were the flash the BIOS with the XMG_A705? Do you know what files must be extracted from that version to allow compatibility with Win 7?
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    With specialist equipment (that heat and melt the solder) you can remove the chips but they are soldered.
     
  5. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    If i´m not mistaken you will brick the motherboard.
    Unless you have experience and a chip burner i would not try that route.

    Removing the CPU and soldering a new one? It´s a lot easier to return or sell the laptop and buy a used one that supports Windows 7.

    And you should make peace with Windows 10, or you´ll be limited to old hardware and lack of support in the years to come.

    Also about this:
    - I speak for the community who were scammed by the manufacturers (did not tell us Win 7 is incompatible) - This is not true, manufacturers have no obligation with you, they do not sell or report to you, manufacturers build orders for brands/stores. The point of purchase is the one who should inform you about Windows support. If Windows 7 support is something that important to anyone they should inquire before making the purchase. It´s 2018, do you honestly believe it´s a "scam" to sell a laptop which does not run Windows 7?


    - N870HK1's fan speed is very slow and never turns on automatically - this can lead to overheating problems if unresolved. Does anyone know how to configure it so it's compatible with NoteBook FanControl? - Fans are controlled by the EC Firmware, unless you modify it you wont be able to tune the fans as you want. Make sure you are running the latest EC, CLEVO usually updates the fan profile. From the testing we do, the automatic fan profile is working very good, just like it is expected. Latest is: 1.05.13
     
  6. N870HK1

    N870HK1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Scammed was a harsh word to use, however before purchasing the distributors laptop support team said it would be compatible with other os including 7.

    The software available to control fan speed has minimal settings.

    Using the latest version of Control Center 5.0001.1.17, the overclock option is not available.

    @Prema - interested in looking into writing a bios compatible with WIn 7 (if possible) for the N870HK1?

    I would happily donate to anyone able to help me solve this issue, it's either that or sell the laptop. In my opinion, the N870HK1 could be a perfect laptop, it's sleek, slim and beautiful. The main issues I'm having are as follows; bios acpi incompatible with Windows 7, backlight keyboard is permanently enabled by default unless software is installed - full backlight keyboard rgb zones should be managed through BIOS. Fan speed control is very poor, also, only accessible through installing software (again, needs to be accessible through bios). As said above, I'd happily financially contribute to someone who's willing to dedicate some time into fixing these issues.

    Anyone have any ideas?
     
  7. BAD LIFE CHOISES

    BAD LIFE CHOISES Newbie

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    Scammed is a harsh word, although my nephew might have been when he bought this model on special offer!

    Needless to say, this thread has been a second home the last day or two.

    I have a new problem now. I noticed on the website that his laptop had the Samsung SM961 512gb M.2 SSD as an upgrade for £300. As luck would have it I found a Samsung SM951 to put in.

    It is recognised by Windows 10 installer, it is recognised by Windows 10 Desktop but the stock BIOS won't let me use it. It turns up under NVMe but is completely greyed out. It's a pretty basic with no CSM options that I can see.

    I'm guessing this is a BIOS problem, and if so, would the OBSIDIAN PC Bios help (Laptop brand is Novatech but happy to pay for the app)
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Is it an AHCI or NVMe SM951?
     
  9. BAD LIFE CHOISES

    BAD LIFE CHOISES Newbie

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    Thanks for the reply.


    It’s a Samsung 512gb PCI express PCI Gen 3 x4 M.2 NVMe SSD MZVPV512HDGL, removed from a 2017 Dell XPS laptop which was upgraded after purchase.
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Did you download the latest installer for windows?
     
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