*OFFICIAL* Alienware "Graphics Amplifier" Owner's Lounge and Benchmark Thread (All 13, 15 and 17)

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  1. FXi

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    Would it be fair to say many egpu users are using some form of higher res display? I'm thinking 3440 16:9 and higher.
     
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    Great answer from Chris. Short and sweet, everything is crystal clear. They could have just changed the name of the device and its port to ALGAE (Alienware Legacy Graphics Amplifier EOL), to make it crystal clear to the customers and avoid all those stupid questions and unnecessary load on Community Managers.

    But seriously, there are still some use cases of AGA: people could buy the lowest GPU variants and hook up a 2080Ti, or enjoy multiple GPUs for whatever reason - an Alienware laptop can have up to 3 discrete GPUs :)
    A 2080Ti should dominate the latest Ampere mobile 3080 150W, given the TimeSpy score of over 14k, and FireStrike above 36k :)
     
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    This is true... unlike the 20X0 gen, the 30X0 gen, in particular the 3080 is PITIFUL in performance vs it’s desktop sibling. Thermal headroom has reached its limits on laptops. The 3080 is just too power hungry and hot.

    The best gen for mobile was the 2080/2080S max-P like in the 51M... almost neck and neck with a vanilla desktop 2080/2080S.

    If I were looking to buy right now, I’d seriously consider skipping this gen; 30X0 mobile are absolute garbage compared to their desktop counterparts. You’re not going to get your money’s worth. You’ll be better off building a miniATX portable build than going with a mobile 3080 in both performance and your wallet.
     
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    Unfortunately this is what happens when people prioritize form over function, which is a really stupid mentality. This is what we get for asking for thinner laptops.

    Gaming laptops need to get thicker again so they can handle higher power parts, or we need innovations in cooling that allow a slim form factor to keep up with a desktop's cooling prowress.
     
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    Considering how power-hungry the desktop parts are these days, is that even possible? Nvidia has decided that the solution is to crank everything to 11 and make a card that draws so much juice the lights in your house dim when the thing goes to work. How would that ever work in a mobile solution? Yeah, we can get some big chonky Clevo based solution with vapor chambers all over, but in the end, it will still end up struggling because desktop cooling solutions are simply bigger and better.

    AMD might have it sorted with the drop to 5nm, but that's still at least a year out. Either die size/efficiency and/or a new form of cooling will need to come along before we see parity between desktop and laptop systems.
     
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    If they are able to improve the cooling they will just increase the sick race towards Apple design. Be you sure, you won't get better cooling. You willl only get skinny, thinner and even slimmer gamingbook models. Welcome to reality:)

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    It will be interesting to see what the Tiger Lake models have. At that point they're dealing with pci-e 4.0 coming off the cpu. Signal integrity is bound to be a problem, or perhaps they just convert it to 3.0 and attach to the "legacy" AGA port. Maybe they skip it entirely and go with TB4 since that's coming off the CPU. Sad if they never continue because the AGA we have is doing wonderful duty on the older AW now, flawless through driver updates and so forth. /sigh
     
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    Could you expand on the "signal integrity issue"?
     
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    In short, cheaply made motherboards will struggle with signal noise. The cheaper, the worse. Already forgot why Dell crippled the Area-51m with lower ram specs than Intel data sheet for later gen processors? They was forced to due usual costs cutting.
     
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