*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R2 Owner's Lounge

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  1. HaloGod2012

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    yep, corporate greed at its finest. I’ve screwed over these large corporations plenty of times so I always keep a even playing field with them. My R1 was completely free for me, thanks to Frank Azor. So I don’t feel as bad when I have to upgrade yearly lol
     
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    Just don't upgrade every year if you are sick of paying for it?

    Honestly the year on year difference between specs isn't a worthwhile upgrade unless you have the money to waste in which case do whatever makes you happy.

    Also from the leaks so far the mobile parts for 3000 series don't look to be anything special and might only be 2080ti level performance at best.
     
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    2080ti performance a giant step up from the mobile 2080 super. This is also the worst case scenario for performance.
     
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    Between 2080 and 2080s it certainly wasn't, the 3080 will be a much more worthwhile upgrade. Dell comes up with these "360Hz display" marketing gimmicks and hefty coupons to push the 2000 series stock for a reason.
     
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    2080Ti vs 2080 super is about 15% more while gaming when we compare desktop GPU.
    Not a giant step in my opinion.
    In this review they expect a decent perormance increase over the rtx 2080 super mobile ( the 2080 super mobile varies between 150,160,170,180,190 and 200wats) considering area 51mr2 uses the 200watts version the difference should be less.
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leake...fast-as-the-desktop-counterpart.496441.0.html
    They expect less performance from the 3070 (laptop) compare to the desktop 2080 Ti.
     
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    I think the 30xx series of GTX will show the limitiation of what our laptops vs what desktops can achieve. Even area 51m and Clevo won't be able to compete with the desktop versions of the cards. Not even sure 3080 will ever make it to our laptops in it's original TGP 320watts.
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-G...ll-this-mean-for-gaming-laptops.492840.0.html
     
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    15% improvement between a lap 2080 and desk 2080Ti (the number definitely looks too low) would be about 3x more than the improvement between 2080 and 2080s :)

    Not the greatest analysis IMHO. There've been better ones, where people actually benched the desktop cards with different power limits. This demonstrated the well known effect of diminishing returns on extra power, and laptops should not be far off the sweet spot.
     
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    15% between 2080S vs 2080TI Desktop. For laptops it's +38% but.....Alienware and Clevo uses the more powerfull laptop version ( TGP 200watts) so i guees it would be less then 38% if we compara a 2080TI desktop and 2080S from alienware or Clevo.
    I agree the 2080S is not an improvment over the 2080, but it seems to be running cooler (maybe it's related to the vapor chamber Heatsink), i will soon test and post results.

    Ok i just saw the post i think you are refering to It makes sense. Even at 200watts the 3080 would only loose 10-15% in performance wich would make it an enormous improvment over the 2080S laptop.
    edit: Now i just saw another post (rumor) that laptop version of 3070 and 3080 should have very low TGP and slower DDR6.....hum.....i don't know anymore.
     
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    Well, Detective @Normimb :), I guess we will see exactly what kind of performance bump we get from this "greatest generational update in history", but my money is on this being an actually significant upgrade, unlike the Super revision. Certainly, we are talking about internal architecture change and fab process improvement, rather than a minor tweak.

    Yep, the R2 has better cooling defo temps are lower :)
     
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    For sure we will see more than the super "upgrade". If it would be worth upgrading from a R2 to R3 in terms of monetary value though is another matter.
     
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