*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R2 Owner's Lounge

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  1. etern4l

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    Soldered WiFi, yeah, I like your thinking... Well, they already sliced the RAM in half in the R2, so after the very successful Alienware m15 R2 (1/10th of user lounge posts vs R1) and R3 (1/20th of user lounge posts vs R1) experiment, Dell might well conclude it's time for the next logical step - soldered RAM in the 51M!
     
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    Nvidia know notebooks being thinner and lighter. Expect TGP max out same as Turing/Pascal and Maxwell Mobile (200w). Not so sure about the die size for Ampere but won’t need much better cooling than todays mobile graphics. Pascal die was small and hence run hotter than Turing.

    Today’s question will be. Will Dell and the other notebook manufacturers follow Nvidia’s increased thermal limits for Ampere?
    150W. Tuned up to 180w. Similar as for 2080 (S). 150w + then added 50w on top via vBios (Mobile).
     
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    I wouldn't expect as much difference between desktop video cards and the mobile video cards:

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    Around 30% difference TDP maybe (?) ... so if the desktop RTX 3080 TDP is 320 W then the mobile RTX 3080 should be around 225+ W, I think most enthusiast brands will push the power up to 250 W. that's my bet
     
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    Imagine Clevo without Prema.

    Whole different existence as far as upgradeability.
     
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    From my older post.
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    Report: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 GPUS To Be In Short Supply Until 2021

    If this is correct it will further confirm what I expect for notebooks. Forget Ampere Mobile at Christmas/early winter. Nvida will happily offer you all their EOL Turing graphics for gamingbooks the coming nearest months:D
     
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    Very keen to see benchmarks/TDP information for this. I'm a little sad we know so little about the 5700M and how it compares.
     
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    As the article you quoted is 100 pages long, I presume you mean this section:
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    Using The Witcher 3, we can measure 322 Watts at the socket at first (248 Watts more than idle). HWiNFO shows 175 Watts for the GPU. The value levels off at 302 Watts after 5 minutes (HWiNFO shows 160 Watts for the GPU, 34 Watts for the CPU). The recommended 500-Watt PSU should therefore be sufficient. Using the R9 Fury, we get around 350 Watts (constant) in the same scene. The Asus Strix 980 Ti (overclocked by Asus) is using even more with about 397 Watt.
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    I believe he is measuring at the plug on the wall. From there the power splits to many consumers on the motherboard suffering many losses, before hitting the GPU. HWinfo showed 160-175W for the GPU, which is in line with Nvidia's specs that show the GTX 1080 at 180W.

    My GTX 1080 is shown in GPU-Z and HWinfo to consume 180W-190W depending on voltages and overclocking.

    On Userbenchmark they show the GTX 1080 desktop as being 17% faster than the mobile version.
    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Mobile/3603vsm165564

    From the A51R1 and R2 threads we know the GTX2080 inside the Alienware consumes 200W, is that not correct? I think the mobile versions of the xx80 models are quite close to the vanilla (not overclocked) desktop versions (not the MQ), may be 15%?
     
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