*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Maybe in the future (And I don't talk about before we pass 2025). And for small items, a lot smaller than the heatsink we have today. And will Dell swallow the increased cost? https://www.electropages.com/blog/2...oved-boron-arsenide-defect-free-semiconductor

    Edit. See also

    Boron arsenide has been proposed as a material for solar cell fabrication,[10][15] although it is not currently used for this purpose.

    An ab initio theory has predicted that the thermal conductivity of cubic BAs is remarkably high, over 2,200 W/(m·K) at room temperature, which is comparable to that of diamond and graphite.[16] Subsequent measurements yielded a value of only 190 W/(m·K) due to high density of defects. See... Small defects in quality will put the thermal conductivity down to the half of what copper is able to handle.
    So the ultimate fix is downclock Cpu?
     
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  2. belarusrulez

    belarusrulez Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nice video.
    I did re paste today and still getting 100C on CPU. Was thinking I did something wrong but it looks like it's common problem :)
    BTW gpu became much lower. I see around 1900 at 75-56C
     
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    Halifax, I meant to "quote" you on my last post.
     
  4. FXi

    FXi Notebook Deity

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    Apple ii+ with 48Kb memory playing Karateka on a green screen monitor (no color) using floppy disks that stored 140Kb on each one.

    Food for thought/debate on the 51M R2:
    If it turns out that the 9700 was a better thermal "fit" for the 51M R1's abilities (maybe or maybe not but that's the supposition for the moment)

    Might it actually be wiser for folks to aim for the I7 10700K instead of the 10900K? This is sort of a will the binning of the I9 benefit confined space users better than the 8 cores which should really be plenty for years to come?

    I can kind of see it either way but having seen how well the 9700 did even though they were both rated for the same 95W has me wondering if we shouldn't avoid the absolute high end knowing what we learned with the R1.
     
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  5. Helifax

    Helifax Notebook Guru

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    No, this is not the ultimate fix. This is just a quick fix on how to get the thermals in check right out the box just using the provided Alienware Command Center tool.
    The ultimate fix is to put the clocks back to 5.0Ghz on 2 cores down to 4.7GHz on all cores, play more with the undervolting and change the PL1 & PL2 settings to better control the power draw. (Exactly the same way that Clevo did on the P775: PL2 - 118W; PL1 - 95W). Those AVX instruction can really cook the CPU.

    I plan to make another video showing this much more in-depth.

    Cheers!
     
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    belarusrulez Notebook Enthusiast

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    Waiting for it :)
     
  7. sasman1964

    sasman1964 Notebook Enthusiast

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    My Area 51m hopefully will delivered tomorrow :) How can i tell if it has the latest revision Motherboard
     
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    Sup3rKillaX Notebook Evangelist

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    Someone please tell me how to limit this dam temp of this 2080 gpu it's going crazy high like 85c and I just want to tell it after like 80c to chill out.

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    Afterburner, undervolt.

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  10. Helifax

    Helifax Notebook Guru

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    Hello again :)

    I've done the follow-up video in which I talk a bit more in-depth on how to tweak the CPU so you can keep the boost up to 5.0Ghz on first cores and 4.7Ghz on all cores while applying the required undervolts and how you can tweak this a bit further by changing the PL1 & PL2 values, using XTU and Cinebench R15/R20 as the stress bench. Obviously this was done in mind with keeping the CPU far from the 100 Celsius thermal throttle limit:



    I did not have a script nor did I rehears anything for this video. I just sat down and talked about it along the way.
    I did spot some obvious mistakes in the video (me saying 8 cores instead of 6, which was obvious and constantly talking about Wattage instead of Power - that is measured in Watts).

    I am also very sorry about the length of the video. I tried to show as much as possible on how you should approach the situation and for what reason, how to stress test the CPU and what to think of doing next.
    For the record, this video shows the absolute WORSE case scenario of load your CPU can sustain. Unless you are doing heavy video editing you will never see these power draws / thermals / lower clocks due to power caps in games or other applications.

    Hope this helps! If you have any questions please do let me know!
    Cheers
     
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