*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

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  1. pathfindercod

    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    Not unless we can convince some smart dude to get like speedfan or some other app forking for fan control...
     
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    xcal237 Newbie

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    I have tinkered with the temp limits on the 1.8.1 bios with the 1.0.0.5 180W vbios and im here to tell yall that it doesnt matter what temp limit your GPU is set at its going to throttle when it hits 78c. I just downgraded to the 1.0.3 bios and the 200 watt vbios. all with gsync... gsync on laptops arent the real thing anyways since its a just nvidia's implementation of the HDMI/Display port variable refresh rate standard. Meaning theres no gsync module on your laptop so basically its just gsync compatible/freesync cause its all done with software implementations.
     
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  3. Lopt

    Lopt Notebook Consultant

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    Ok I forgot that in my last setup I had re enabled GeForce experience Whisper mode, now I’ll admit Whisper mode is pretty neat, temps stay nice and low on the GPU and the graphical changes are easy to miss,

    That explains the strange performance discrepancy.

    It’s weird because it’s actually pretty good the GPU seems to hit its low end rated speeds when it needs to and most importantly never thermal throttles even using 200w VBIOS, but benchmarks tell the story, whisper mode TimeSpy 690O / Whisper off 10728.

    Funny thing is you really don’t miss the performance in games, I’m sure most of the dedicated benchmark folks know what to look for and would spot it immediately but I missed it, until I went looking for why the scores and my GPU temps were so low.

    New theory, I bet a lot of average folks that are perfectly happy with this laptop have Whisper mode enabled.




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  4. ace6285

    ace6285 Newbie

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    Hi, first post here. Just got my Area 51m (i7-9700 / 2080 180w / 32GB ram / 1.8.1 BIOS/ ) more than a week ago, and so far happy with the performance. However, I'm encountering a peculiar issue when restarting after the latest AWCC components update. When restarting (manually), the system seems like it fails to boot. The LED of the keyboard will turn into the 'rainbow' pattern which is the pattern when the system is powered up, which seems to indicate that the system has indeed rebooted. However, the Alienware logo doesn't appear and it's just a black screen and nothing happens. Have to long press power to force shut down the system. When you power the system up, it boots properly. So either the system actually failed to power down/restart and freezes/hangs or it hangs during the boot up.

    Additionally, the system seems to restart and boot properly if you reboot immediately in the Windows login screen (not logging in). So quite an odd issue. Anyone encountered this?

    Also just to note, the SSDs are in RAID mode though the two SSDs are not in a RAID setup (configured as individual drives). Also, below is the current version of AWCC (as per "App and Features") :

    * Command Center - 5.2.63.0
    * OC Controls - 1.2.50.1227

    Thanks!

    UPDATE: seems like the USB C / thunderbolt hub that I'm using is the culprit. Didn't encounter any issues when using it in Windows, but when I removed it on restarts or boot up, was able to restart properly. Will continue to observe though as the system also boots up properly from a powered down state even when the hub is connected.
     
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  5. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Same outcome though - not sure it really makes any difference if its a hw module or software as software and hardware are logically equivalent. I'd call that the 'real thing' from a Computer Science perspective :)

    I might be mistaken but people were able to run systems with heating and no throttling exceeding 78c in the past before the whole "burning laptop" issue came to light and the consequent 1.5.0+ BIOS/VBIOS changes, but someone correct me if this is wrong.
     
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  6. Helifax

    Helifax Notebook Guru

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    Hi,

    I haven't used whisper mode. I remember reading about it when it was launched, but then forgot about it as my previous Alienware didn't support it.

    I did play with the "battery mode" though:
    On bios 1.5.0 playing Metro Exodus will work super fine. The FPS cap will be 30 pretty solid (I had to turn off RTX as GFE thinks I should use it on battery). All went well until my battery dropped to 50% at which point my GPU downclocked to 300Mhz and was "stuck" there for the reaming 50% of the battery (with abysmal 5-10FPS).
    I have tested this 3 times and every time it was the same.

    I plan to test it on the 1.8.1 bios and see if the problem is the same.
    Out of curiosity, did anyone try this?

    Cheers,
    Helifax
     
  7. Lopt

    Lopt Notebook Consultant

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    It would be interesting to see how it did with on Battery WITH Whisper mode enabled.
     
  8. devilhunter

    devilhunter Notebook Evangelist

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    Im considering modifying a heat sink for water cooling this laptop, I might get an extra heat sink to play around, Not sure if this is a wise thing but apparently, water is the only way out of this. How to remove the heat pipe from this thing !
     
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  9. Helifax

    Helifax Notebook Guru

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    You should watch this (Cooling the Area51m):


    I giggled so hard ^_^
     
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    S1ammin Notebook Enthusiast

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    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081568SS8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I have always used a laptop cooler with my laptops but have never spent this much for one. I've had it for a couple of months now and even though I feel almost embarrassed to post this, I really do think it is a good buy (I did get it a little cheaper than the current price).

    First, it can get very loud! Not due to low quality, but just pure air movement. It does have an auto mode and I always switch it to auto when playing games, but otherwise I leave it on manual and running at 17%. My fan profile on the A-51 is always set to balanced. It's just less steps to switch the cooler to auto than it is to switch the ACC to high-performance.

    With the cooler in auto and ACC set to balanced, the cooler compensates very well for the lag that ACC has. The cooler is actually too responsive, hence why I only run it in auto mode when playing games or benching.

    Pricey, but I'm glad I bought it. Especially since I usually game with noise cancelling headphones.
     
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