NVMe vs. SATA SSDs for Gamers

Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Phoenix, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. jaug1337

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    nvme only seems viable for data access in work-related process'.

    gamers are unable to utilize a nvme as you reach the bottleneck that is 1) the games code 2) your other hardware
     
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    Phoenix Super Tweaker

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    what kills me about NVMe SSDs is how long it takes the motherboard to initialize the NVMe controller. It is pretty sad that my wife's 4 year old Dell Vostro with a Crucial MX100 512GB SSD boots to Windows in 8 seconds from the moment you press the power button to the Windows desktop while my expensive laptop with dual 960 PROs in RAID 0 takes 15 seconds just to start showing me the Windows loading icon then another 10 seconds to reach to the desktop :rolleyes:

    So yeah, the benchmark numbers are insane, but where do I see the benefit as a user? certainly not in my workflow... maybe if you are dealing with humongous files on a constant basis then yes it will matter going NVMe but as it stands now, the only reason I am using NVMe SSDs is purely because they offer the largest storage capacity.
     
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  3. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    Do you miss your Sandisk Extreme Pro drives?:D How much can you shave of if yoo change and use single boot drive?
     
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    thats more of mobo/bios implementation, on desktop side of things with NVMe SSD, they boot faster than SATA SSD. desktop users are all about high end, efficiency, speed and feature. if a mobo takes that long to boot they will get no business from desktop builder.


    sandisk had some decent Sata SSDs when they were using sandforce controller, but the new sandisk SSDs like extreme or extreme pro are dying left and right, i own like 5-6 of them and rma like 3 or 4 lol.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Save your money, invest what you would have spent on an expensive and hot running NVME PCIE x4 M.2 drive into a 2x larger M.2 SATA drive, or even a 2.5" SSD drive to replace the 2.5" HDD that your laptop came with.

    HDD Vs. SSD Vs. NVMe M.2 - Does a NVMe Drive Help Boot Times?
     
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  6. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    Whats wrong with the machine? Boot 36/37 sec with ssd's. Bloat? Aka Tested on MSI?:D
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I found video's with longer boot times on SSD too :)

    Who knows, it's the comparison that matters...right?

    Same content took longer / same on PCI NVME :)

    I think @Phoenix complained about this as well, it's the initialization delay for NVME on the motherboard.

    That's why it's good to look at what the actual benefits are from M.2 PCIE x4 NVME SSD's compared to M.2 SATA SSD's in real life usage.

    Most people aren't going to notice the difference of a few seconds longer startup for apps / games, and in game it's even less noticeable - whereas the 6x speed up from SATA HDD to SATA SSD is much more noticeable.
     
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    Papusan JOKEBOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    A huge amount of people think their new purchased laptops with M.2 PCIe drives are incredibly fast in boot. They do not know that it's Fast Startup in newer Windoze that tricks them:D
     
  9. Phoenix

    Phoenix Super Tweaker

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    That's a negative, had an Intel 750 1.2TB NVMe SSD on my previous desktop, boots slow as a turtle....same thing, takes ages to initialize during POST

    That desktop was an Origin PC Millennium with a 5930K CPU overclocked to 4,5 GHz and an ASUS X99 Deluxe motherboard.
     
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    lol whats with the videos you pick rofl. i seriously doubt these guys know what they are doing. ive got reviewers showing me they boot from nvme ssds in under 11 sec, cold boot, no sleep files enabled and all those jazz etc. and then their optane ssd coldboot in less than 8 sec, pretty crazy what they can do when they choose the right mobo with good bios and good storage device.
     
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