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    Well, I've read a number of reviews for these new cards as well as watched some video reviews (Guru3d/Gamers Nexus/Overclockers/Toms Hardware), and I'm not particularly impressed with these cards. We're looking at a generational performance increase of 30%'ish in most games, with a rare few showing 50% increase in performance, and with Vulkan based games getting smashed with a 70% increase. This is a smaller generational performance gain than we are used to seeing, apart from the stunning 70% performance increase in Vulkan. On top of this disappointment in performance we also have a massive price increase on these cards - it's just not worth the money. If NVidia had launched these cards at the same launch prices of Pascal then these cards would be OK value considering that they have the ray tracing & tensor core accelerated DLSS features to offset the fairly small generational performance improvement, but they haven't done that. I would have loved to have seen these cards launch at the 'sensible' prices of the Pascal launch, which would mean they would have had to lower the price of their Pascal cards that they are currently selling, which is only fair & right considering they are 2 yr old tech now, however those Pascal cards are still selling at their launch price - it's just all wrong! Waiting for the next generation of NVidia cards after Turing and/or seeing what AMD can bring to the table are the best options I think - this Turing launch is generally disappointing and the ray tracing tech is just not mature at the moment, with questionable adoption by game developers combined with expected low frames per second performance when ray tracing features are turned on - all makes this generation a questionable buy.

    On a bit more detail on 2080/2080ti performance: I expected more performance from the 2080ti over the 2080, the 2080ti has 47% more cores than the 2080 but performs nowhere close to 47% better. Even when overclocked to broadly similar clockspeeds there's still a disparity. I think somethings up with that, perhaps when you get to a certain maximum number of cores then you get reduced performance scaling. I really did expect more performance from the 2080ti given it's impressive specs.
     
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    Metro Exodus - Official gameplay video
    By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/19/2018 08:34 AM | 29 comment(s) ]
    https://www.guru3d.com/news/index.html <== no direct URL given...

    "NVIDIA has just released a new video for Metro Exodus, showcasing 6 minutes of gameplay footage from the PC version with RTX mode enabled.

    In other words, this video showcases the real-time ray traced Global Illumination effects that 4A Games will implement to the game.

    Metro Exodus will be one of the first games that will support real-time ray tracing. The game is powered by the 4A Engine and is currently planned for a February 22nd, 2019, release. "

    Gonna be a long wait for them "ray's"...

    Metro Exodus: GeForce RTX Real-Time Ray Traced Global Illumination Demo
    NVIDIA GeForce
    Published on Sep 18, 2018
    4A Games are bringing real-time Ray Tracing to Metro Exodus!

    Metro Exodus RTX Ray Tracing: The Next Level in Lighting?
    DigitalFoundry
    Published on Sep 18, 2018
    Join Alex and John for a detailed discussion of Metro Exodus, focusing on the game's beautiful ray tracing implementation! It's early in development with lots of optimisation to go, but still looking beautiful.
     
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    From a laptop gamer's perspective, investing now in a 8700K (or 8750H) + 1080 instead of waiting for the 9900K + 2080 (if ever) combo is still a good decision. Due to TDP the laptop 2080 variant will probably be at the performance level of a 2070, which will be marginally faster than a 1080. And forthcoming games, at least in the next two years, will still primarily be oriented to non-RTX card owners.
     
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    GeForce RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti, 35 Game Benchmark
    Hardware Unboxed
    Published on Sep 20, 2018
    GeForce RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti, 35 Game Benchmark

    2:37 - Monster Hunter: World
    3:32 - DiRT 4
    4:26 - Assassin's Creed: Origins
    5:04 - Kingdom Come Deliverance
    5:41 - Fortnite
    7:10 - F1 2017
    8:08 - F1 2018
    9:17 - The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt
    9:52 - Rise of the Tomb Raider [DX11]
    10:55 - Deus Ex: Mankind Divided [DX11]
    11:29 - Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia
    12:09 - Total War Warhammer II [DX11]
    12:57 - For Honor
    13:40 - War Thunder
    14:31 - Sniper Elite 4 [DX12]
    15:05 - Middle-earth Shadow of War
    15:47 - Quake Champions
    16:58 - Prey
    17:39 - Star Wars Battlefront II
    18:31 - Warframe
    20:01 - Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands
    20:37 - World of Tanks
    21:12 - Wreckfest
    22:04 - Performance Summary
    24:04 - Cost per frame
    27:06 - Misleading Results
    29:00 - Conclusion
     
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    I think nvidia will release RTX 3xxx series that lets people use both Tensor and CUDA cores concurrently!
     
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    How do you mean? At the moment with RTX 2080/2080ti the tensor cores can be used at the same time as the CUDA cores, ie. when DLSS is activated (that's what the tensor cores do). I also think the tensor cores are involved during ray tracing (as well of course as the RT Cores), so RTX 2xxx series is already using Tensor & Cuda cores concurrently.
     
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    Unless NVidia decide to make bespoke Turing chips for laptops that don't have any Tensor nor RT cores, and instead use that space & power budget for more traditional CUDA cores - then this would provide laptop GPUs that have a higher performance & higher performance per Watt than the desktop variants in traditional games (no DLSS nor ray tracing). I don't think there are any rumours to substantiate this though, so your thoughts are probably quite true.
     
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