Nvidia back to their old tricks

Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by KING19, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. KING19

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    They've started to nerf Pascal GPUs performance
     
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    Nothing that amazes me.. its like a way of marketing strategy to force users to buy new hardware, even if the old hardware was still capable of running the games
     
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    Old news. Everyone knows that the performance for old GPUs went down with new 400-series of drivers, this never changed.
     
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    This seems suspect to me. For one, the right side consistently uses more VRAM than the left side, sometimes as much as 200MB more. I’m not so sure the right side wasn’t using higher settings, hence the lower performance.

    Reminds me of when Joker Productions was caught manipulating benchmarks to show AMD GPUs in a more favorable light by using higher settings on the Nvidia GPUs that were being compared. One of the things that gave it away was the disparity in VRAM usage, especially considering that AMD cards tend to use more VRAM than Nvidia cards at the same settings as their memory compression is worse. Those with a keen eye also noticed the subtle difference in the graphical effects being shown on-screen.

    I’m not saying this is a repeat of that episode, but don’t underestimate the lengths to which people will go to push a sensationalist or false narrative, especially on a platform as clickbait and ad driven as YouTube.
     
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    Thats is true in a sense but at the same time Nvidia has done this before with their past GPU architectures, They did to Maxwell, Kepler, Fermi and so on in order to make people buy their latest GPU architecture and now its Pascal's turn.

    Heres another one but with the 1060GTX

     
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    There was a performance regression bug that affected some of the 400 series drivers in certain games, most notably in Far Cry 5, but that bug affected multiple architectures, not just Pascal, and it was eventually fixed in later drivers. Windows 10 feature updates in the past have also reduced performance in some cases. The notion that Nvidia purposely gimps the performance of its older architectures in the same games via newer drivers is an absolute myth, and I have never seen definitive proof to the contrary. Earlier this year I posted this in response to another member who was repeating the same myth, showing performance gains on drivers 3 years apart, with Kepler of all things.
     
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    So is this bug worked out with 431.60?

    If not, what are the optimal drivers at this point for pascal? In particular for a GP104 die.
     
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    Team red all the way haha.

    Intel/nvidia need a kick up the arse imo.
     
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    I dont see any ads on YouTube, I use ad blockers.
     
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    All claims of driver nerfing old GPUs have been refuted in the past, so I wouldn't be so quick to jump on this as if it is fact. Maxwell was never degraded in performance after Pascal came out and this was proven.

    400 series drivers just suck (hit or miss) and that's why I still haven't used any of them. I figure if I'm not on RTX it's not worth the hassle.
     
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