NP530Uxx Thread (Series 5 ultrabook)

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  1. gotoh

    gotoh Newbie

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    ATTENTION: If you're a new user with a freshly bought Series 5, the first thing you ought to do is use Samsung Recovery Solution to make a backup of all drivers/software before changing/deleting anything!



    BEWARE: There have been several reports that booting Linux using UEFI could BRICK your Samsung laptop! (For more info, see the link immediately below this box...)
    Code:
    http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html


    As vital info is somewhat scattered throughout many posts, my purpose here is to provide a easy launchpad for essential posts related to this model (if this breaks forum rules in anyway feel free to advise or delete...).

    Regarding the Series 5, I'm aware of two different main models, the 530U3x and 530U4x, with hardware and regional variants denoted by a five character code appended with a hyphen (-S02PT in my personal case).[EDIT: since this was written, many more models came to light, look at the review of a NP530U4C below for a list...]

    Let's start with the two most valuable (IMHO) entries to date, not really NP530Uxx specific but applicable and essential nonetheless:

    EDIT: Although related to different models, the following threads might provide useful information on setting up particular components of the NP530U...

    This WIPo (Work In Progress) will of course benefit from the collaboration of all, so everybody's welcome to join... :)

    Misc. resources:


    For those baffled by the intermittent nature of this model's USBs or the internal SSD, here's another thread that might be of interest:

    I contributed a post with a working solution to install Windows from USB to the iSSD...

     
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    BjornS Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, good idea! I was kind of surprised when I went to this forum after buying my 530 and didn't find a thread like this.

    Regarding the tricks/problems with booting/installing Windows from USB with the purpose of getting a clean install without bloatware. I thought I should mention that I took kind of a low budget solution to it when installing Windows 8 on my machine. I booted the existing Windows 7 installation as usual. Took my USB stick where I had manufactured a USB Windows install disk for Windows 8 with the help of Microsofts USB tool and started a clean install of Windows 8 from within Windows 7. After the installation was finished I was a bit disappointed that Windows 8 has saved all old Windows and program files in backup folders. But the standard Windows disk cleanup tool was able to delete them without problems.

    Now I have a installation that is 32GB, but hibernation and swap accounts for 16 of them (I have a 8GB RAM) so I would say it really IS a clean install.
     
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    gotoh Newbie

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    Great info. I did just the same coming from a Server 2008 back to Windows 7 (vainly hoping that it would keep my settings, which it didn't after I was forced into a clean install) and it placed the former OS in a WindowsOld folder...

    What's your model ID and how's 8 performing?
     
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    BjornS Notebook Enthusiast

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    The model number is NP530U3C-A01SE. It's a model with 500GB HD and 24 GB SSD-cache. I've upgraded it to a 256 GB Samsung 830 SSD and 8 GB RAM.

    Windows 8 runs very smoothly and seems to consume less resources than Windows 7. There are a couple of drivers that I'm missing; a driver for the Elan touchpad so that multi gestures would work and also the USB 3 port only seems to produce USB 2 speeds. But hopefully the Samsung driver update application will take care of that when it starts to work. I guess it will be around the launch date for Windows 8 - right now it only returns an error when I try and run it.
     
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    BjornS Notebook Enthusiast

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    Now that Windows 8 has been released the Samsung Update program has started working and I've used it to update all my drivers. The Elan trackpad now supports multi gestures and my USB 3 port manages to achieve 120 (!) MB/s in transfer speed.

    The only thing that refuses to work is the Intel rapid Start technology.It seems that some Samsung update (maybe the BIOS update?) has removed the hibernate functionality completely. It's not that it just isn't visible under Power Options in the Control panel. If you run powercfg -a it tells you that the chipset doesn't support hibernation!

    For anyone that wonders - I have a separate hibernation partition created and I've installed the Intel Rapid Start driver. Unsurprisingly the Rapid Start Manager complains when starting - hardly surprising if hibernation is totally gone from system!
     
  6. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I wouldn't be worried too much about what the BIOS thinks: IRST works outside of the BIOS. Is there a switch in Settings (the successor to Easy Settings) to enable IRST? Is there an IRST program to needs to be start (under Windows 7 the two relevant programs are irstrtsv.exe and RapidStartConfig.exe. Are they running?

    John
     
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    BjornS Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, the new settings application doesn't have anything related to Rapid start.Which is kind of suspicious in itself.The exe-files (processes) you mentioned are running.

    But as I said - something in the Samsung updates has completely disabled the hibernation support on the machine. Before the updates I had hibernation support. Resume from hibernation was around 10 seconds.Not to bad, but of course slower than the real Intel thing. Now it's impossible to activate - running "powercfg -h on" only returns that the chipset doesn't support it!

    I've tried uninstalling the Samsung settings application - it affects parts of the power configuration behavior. Without it the power LED flashes in sleep mode. With it the LED stays off. Apart from that cosmetic change, which probably has to do with the Samsung optimized power plan, the rest stays the same. Only sleep mode - no hibernation.

    It's kind of shame that the Rapid start thing requires that both the vendor and Intel does things right. It seems hard for Samsung to manage hooking these things together judging by the threads in this forum...
     
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    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    You are missing a key point that IRST sleep / hibernation work outside Windows and the Windows hibernation gets disabled. See this thread for more about IRST.

    Are those two programs (irstrtsv.exe and RapidStartConfig.exe) running?

    What happens if you shut the computer? Does it go to sleep? And if you leave it shut overnight does it take longer to wake up?

    John
     
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    BjornS Notebook Enthusiast

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    Again . the exes are running! Oh, and my computer only sleeps even if I leave it closed for all night. No switching to hibernate.Battery drop about 1%/hour.

    I now uninstalled Intel Rapid Start, rebooted and still no hibernate support ("The system firmware doesn't support hibernation").

    So I still claim that the Samsung updates did away with the hibernation support.

    My view is that Samsung should have implemented the settings for Rapid Start in the bios in the way that it is outlined in this Intel document http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/rapid_start_technology_user_guide.pdf. They could of course have added software support for changing those settings from Easy Settings/Settings as well. That is how some other settings work. Now when there's nothing under the Settings application that can affect it you are kind of stranded.
     
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    If those .exes are running then the problem could be that the time-out for transition from sleep to hibernation is not set (there is exactly the same problem with the Windows 7 setup that Samsung was shipping with the Series 9 - perhaps deliberate so that people though there was near-instant resume from hibernation, until they noticed that the battery had lost several percent charge.

    You should be able to run RapidStartConfig to set the timer. You can also check the settings in the registry as discussed in the IRST thread.

    John
     
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