New Owner Question: Raid on the Titan-427??

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  1. Ultra Male

    Ultra Male Super Tweaker

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    Where did you see that on HIDevolution? because when I was trying to get the answer for you, I actually checked if they had the -427 variant and they didn't. Do you have a link?
     
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    It's gone. Everyone sold out of those older models so I can't bring up those configuration pages anywhere now. I tried Google Cache and Wayback Machine but no luck.

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    Well ok. So I took a gamble and lost. There was no 100% way to find out the M.2 ports on my model until it came it. Black Friday came and was going fast, so I bit the bullet and bought two Samsung 970 Evo 500gb NVMe drives.

    My mobo has: PCIE-1 m-keyed nvme port (right-most port); PCIE-2 Blank--no header on board (middle port); SATA-1 b-keyed sata3 port (left-most port).

    No Raid this way unless it works with slot 1 and 3, but they are not the same. And now I've got two MVMe drives and one slot. I can't use one of them in the Sata slot because it's keyed wrong for the drive (it isn't b/m, just b). I will probably use the other Evo in my desktop.

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    heliada Notebook Evangelist

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    I got here too late... on xoticpc website (https://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-427.html), in specs it clearly states it has the lower HM175 chipset. That one indeed is robbed of the extra M2 slots just like the gt72vr. I did not know they also came with a 7820HK though, thought only the gt73EVR with 7700HQ had this crappy chipset. For some more decently fast storage you can just get a samsung 860 evo (2.5 inch) and replace the hdd with it, but no raid for you. You can also use the hdd from the laptop if it came with one in your pc for backups (cause the msi hdds are no good for anything else than that or trash).
    PS. the xoticpc website actually says it has more ssd slots... so it all smells fishy anyway. HM175 does not have those. Which cpu did you get in it?
     
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    I got the 7820HK in it. I was hoping it had the newer chipset but I was kinda thinking, probably not since this was the low-end model. I've never used raid before so it's ok - just would have been nice to try it out. Actually even having the third M.2 slot would be nice. Maybe I can sell my extra Samsung 970 Evo 500MB drive and buy a hard case for this monster.
    The web site was a little misleading, but it may not have been their fault. HIDEvolution's site actually had a raid option in the configuration for this model, so there may be some unhappy customers over there if they ordered it with raid only to be called up and told it can't do that. It looks like MSI is probably to blame for sketchy information on these models. I bet once they started rolling in and getting opened up for customization, these shops were probably just as surprised at what they found.
    I wonder what other cool things I will miss out on using the older chipset. So far I'm happy with the laptop. I put the OS on my 970 Evo NVMe drive and nuked the 1TB HGST HDD that came with it, and now I'm loading games on that. I had bought a Western Digital Easyshare 2TB external drive so that when the laptop came in, I could put that drive in the laptop for games, but when I opened the external enclosure I found that they had actually soldered the USB3 connector onto the controller board of the drive. Nice of them for that.
     
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    You have the HM175 chipset version.
    This was discussed in another thread recently
    The HM175 chipset version (aka "GT73EVR" outside of USA) removes the 2nd M2 NVME slot for some reason only MSI knows.
    The only one that has both NVME slots and the SATA m.2 slot is the CM238 version.

    Feel free to download HWinfo64 and check. 100% sure it will say HM175.
     
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    I had looked at CPU-Z last night but didn't see it there and went on to bed. Thanks I forgot about HWINFO. It is what it is. It's still the best laptop I've ever owned so I'm not gonna cry about it. I am glad that I upgraded the RAM so it would have dual-channel, though.
     
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    I have the GT73 VR 7RE 427, stock it comes with 1TB 7200 rpm

    I added a 960 Evo nvme and there is another slot for a second nvme gen 3x 4 drive and then a regular M.2 SATA port. I replaced the original 1atB drive a a Seagate 1TB SSHD. Mine has the 1070

    Great unit and I am really hoping there is the final GT upgrade option. The guy who helped me out at MSI and recently clarified my remaining warranty said the unit is eligible for their next GT upgrade but question is will it actually happen after the last fiasco they had

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    See I don't have a second nvme port. The slot is empty on my board. Mine came with the 1070, an hgst 1tb 7200rpm sata hard drive. I put a samsung 970 M.2 NVME in the first m.2 port, which has an M slot notch. The middle m.2 port is gone. I see the solder points on the motherboard but there is no header mounted on the motherboard. On the other side is an m.2 port with a B notch, labeled sata. I migrated windows to the Evo 970 and formatted the hard disk for games. I need to get an m.2 sata drive with either a B notch or B/M notches to add more storage. Apparently I have the older 175 chipset which doesn't have raid or 3 nvme ports. It's a gt73vr 7re 427 like yours, so I'm surprised they would be different. However, MSI web site does list the gt73vr as having either chipset so I guess I got the short straw. However I still love the laptop. I noticed there was a 16gb ram in one of the bottom slots and I thought both upper slots had to be used first for dual-channel. I do indeed show 32GB in dual-channel mode when checking, so it's all good.

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