New m.2 ssd cloning

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  1. pdogg93

    pdogg93 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi all, so I just received a replacement ssd for my 17R4 due to an overheating Toshiba 1 tb m.2. Dell very kindly replaced it with a Samsung PM961 nmve of the same size. I plugged it into the second full size m.2 pcie slot and figured I could use the Samsung data migration software to clone the Toshiba onto the Samsung.

    Unfortunately, the migration software isn't recognizing the new drive. Any suggestions on how best to completely copy the existing ssd onto the new one? I read about switching the sata in the bios from Raid to AHCI, but when I do this I just get blue screen and no boot.

    thanks in advance.
     
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    Issue with clonezilla is the fed to action drive has to be equal or larger than the source. So lost people clone from larger spindle drives to smaller ssd drives. Clonezilla works great for mass imaging though.
     
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    thanks for recommending Macrium Reflect. Worked like a charm!
     
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    When you clone a drive and have both connected at the same time, how do you prioritise one as the boot device? On my 15R3, I struggled with this as I wanted to format the old one.
     
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    I generally clone, shut down. Remove the new drive that will be the new drive. Boot off my tech pe or windows install disk and format the old drive in the system. Shut down install the new cloned drive in the HD space 0 or whatever and move the formatted drive to the second drive space.
     
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    I usually go in the bios and just switch from the windows partition boot to the other one. They both have the same name but once you change it, should work like a charm. The whole remove the drive you don't want to boot from works too, you can usually boot up a few times with it out, then pop it back in and format it for storage or whatever. Done that a million times but prefer just doing the bios one as I don't have to pull things out as much.
     
  9. Modiolo

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    Hello, I own an Alienware 13 R3, that came with a Toshiba ssd, and has another (empty) NVME m.2 slot.
    So I have just received my new 960 EVO ssd, and was planning the best way to use it. My first idea was to do as you said:
    Insert the new drive in the free m.2 nvme slot, then clone the toshiba to the 960 EVO, and then ... change the booting device preferences in the BIOS as @MSGaldenzi said; so I wanted to be sure about the following:

    -Are both slots of the machine the same speed or protocol?
    - or should I re-open the laptop and switch the drives instead of making the bios operation?

    Also I've read in some threads I should check if the drives are not in RAID mode or the samsung nvme controller wont work....
    And that's another question. Is it ok to install all the Samsung Magician controller etc?,
    I hope you can help me. And any other thing you tink I should be aware of in this process.

    Thanks Very much!
     
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    Modiolo, if you want a fail-safe method to do this, I strongly recommend doing a full cloning using Linux. Any linux will really do, if you boot from it from USB or DVD drive, you can use the terminal to do what's called "dd". Personally cloning software ALWAYS ALWAYS failed on me, and I only trust the linux method.

    RAID mode should really be an option in BIOS, and laptop should not have that option at all.

    As for speed on the nvme slots, they should be identical, and even if they aren't it won't be noticeable. BIOS operation sounds just about right, no need to switch them around physically.

    If you choose to do linux-dd method, it's been done here:
    https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/514114-Cloning-an-entire-SSD-Step-by-Step-Instructions
     
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