New Laptop: Photography, Programming, Studies, Gaming

Discussion in 'What Notebook Should I Buy?' started by PhotographyEnthusiast, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. PhotographyEnthusiast

    PhotographyEnthusiast Newbie

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    General Questions:

    1) What is your budget?
    Around £2000 / £2500 GBP

    2) What size notebook would you prefer?
    Mainstream; 15" - 16" screen

    3) Which country will you buying this notebook?
    UK

    6) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?
    Photoshop, Lightroom, HTML Programming, Computer Science Degree (Programming - Python, Java etc), Games (heaviest European & American Truck Simulator)

    7) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both?
    75% of the time it will be static and mains powered

    8) Will you be playing games on your notebook?
    The heaviest games I have are European & American Truck Simulator

    9) How many hours of battery life do you need?
    N/A

    10) Would you prefer to see the notebooks you're considering before purchasing it or buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK?

    11) What OS do you prefer? Windows, Mac OS, Linux, Chrome OS, etc.
    Windows 10 Pro, happy to upgrade from Home if needed.

    Screen Specifics:

    12) What screen resolution(s) would you prefer? (See further below for explanations.)
    4K seems sharper. (Need 100% sRGB or very very near due to photography)

    13) Do you want a glossy/reflective screen or a matte/non-glossy screen?
    Don't Mind it will be used indoors.

    Build Quality and Design:

    14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?
    Not Really

    Notebook Components

    15) How much hard drive space do you need?
    Have a home server, my current 256GB is only half full

    Timing, Warranty and Longevity


    16) When are you buying this laptop?
    Next three months

    17) How long do you expect to use this laptop?
    Usually aim for 4-5 years

    18) How long could you afford to do without your laptop if it were to fail?
    Few days

    19) Would you be willing to pay significantly extra for on-site warranty, or would it be acceptable to you to have to ship the laptop to the vendor for repair with perhaps a week or more outage?
    Would prefer onsite, but mail in seems the norm.

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    Have been having a look around and have seen the following:

    HP Spectre x360 15inch Gem Cut: Around £1700 with student discount with a 3 year care plan for mail in included. Not had HP for over a decade so not sure what they are like these days. Very limited reviews online at the moment. (https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=4XJ42EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB)

    Dell XPS 9570 15inch: Around £1800 with student discount with 5 year onsite warranty. Not had Dell for even longer than the HP and whilst plenty of reviews they are either great or avoid. (https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/lap...ps/new-xps-15/spd/xps-15-9570-laptop/cnx97008)

    Lenovo Extreme X1: This one is over £2500 when you add in the 5 year warranty and a few other bits.

    HP ZBook Studio x360 G5: This one is expensive, the most expensive of them all but seems to get great reviews from the limited ones I have seen online. But my concerns go to the graphics card and gaming etc.
    (https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=2ZC63EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB)

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    I am a bit of a geek so have no problems with re-pasting, adding RAM, swapping hard drives or things like that. Have never amended voltages so that would be a new one but have read that the XPS really needs it.

    Thanks for reading and your thoughts, hopefully have answered in enough detail and given enough for your help.

    Paul
     
  2. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Hi,

    If you are a bit of a geek, then you should be able to play around with noteb.com search tool.
    I did a search here for laptops that might match your criteria: noteb search.
    You can see and change the search parameters using the "Refine results" button in the upper-left part of the search results page. You can also click on the laptops for more information.

    Mind you, prices for the UK market are more or less estimates, but we try our best to keep them as close to what you should be paying.

    Given you have such a generous budget, you should consider a business grade machine: https://noteb.com/?content/article.php?/2018/06/14/why-get-a-business-laptop/

    So from my results and from what you wrote, I would recommend:
    - Lenovo Thinkpad P1 / X1 Extreme, it has no significant issues, it only throttles in heavy combined processor and video card load
    - Dell Precision 7530, which is probably one of the best 15-inch laptops on the market
    - HP Zbook 15 G5, also an excellent laptop it's HP's version of the Dell 7530.
    - Dell Precision 5530, it's the business-grade version of the XPS 9570, with less quality control issues, but still the same undervolting needs.
    - HP Zbook Studio G5, also a great laptop if you want something lighter

    I think that's about it. Hope this helps.
     
  3. rlk

    rlk Notebook Evangelist

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    Might also want to look at the ThinkPad P52. You can get that with an on-site warranty (as you can the Dell Precision 5530) if you want.
     
  4. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    You are right. The Lenovo Thinkpad P52 is a good laptop overall, but it has a poor cooling design, with a heatsink that is shared between the processor and the video card, leading to throttling when both are under stress. Of course, if OP is not going to stress both simultaneously, which does seem to be the case, then the P52 is also an option, but I thought "why get for the P52 when he can get a better laptop for a similar price".
     
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    Thanks for the help and advice, would the Quadro Graphics be ok for gaming on or would I run into problems further down the line?
     
  6. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Depends on the Quadro card. The P1000 is more or less equivalent to the GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q. For the games you mentioned, I think it should work fine.
    The only issue might be the drivers, but if you run into driver problems, consider this website: http://laptopvideo2go.com/
     
  7. amirbahalegharn

    amirbahalegharn Notebook Consultant

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    why not clevo p751tm in your country website? you can even have 9900K(just do delid+repaste+UV) or better cooling cpu,9700K below 2000euro.
    https://www.kustompcs.co.uk/pc-syst...gamebook-6-15-gtx-1060-i7-8700k-gaming-laptop

    9900K+gtx1060+16GB+1TB sshd+250 evo 970 ssd = 1894euro !! , you may ask for 4K panel (model : LQ156D1JX01B(glossy)/LQ156D1JW04(matte) which has 100%sRGB and in you ebay.co.uk, is only 105euro,link here)
    you may buy here too with 4K,although i believe it's samsung with 1950euro (i suggest you to buy FHD version and replace 4K sharp from the ebay link or ask specifically for sharp display model I gave you above)
    specs :9900K+gtx1060+1TB sshd+optane 32gb+4K+330W adaptor+16GB 2666mhz...

    https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/octaneV-15/
    there are many stores in europe/uk selling the same chasis like:
    https://clevocenter.com/clevo-p751tm1-g-cfg.html
    https://configurelaptop.eu/product/clevo-p751tm-15-6-gtx-1070-gaming-laptop/

    the comparison for 4K samsung vs sharp panel for this chasis is here
    for FHD panels comparison and it's I?O ports selection + storage upgradabilty:
    https://imgur.com/a/1iEiRdX
    [​IMG]
     
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