New Generation Intel CPU's 'Tiger Lake' Processors

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  1. mehtenj94

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    Some interesting remarks from the Reddit AMA intel did recently. Quoting them below

    9-11980HK is fully unlocked
    i9-11950 and i9-11900H are partially unlocked for up to 5 bins of overclocking
    i7-11800H is partially unlocked for up to 4 bins of overclocking

    All of the fully and partially unlocked SKUs can take advantage of Intel Speed Optimizer (boost the all core turbo to the single core turbo frequency) and memory OC

    Reg undervolting:
    "Undervolting requires the ability to overclock enabled in the bios, which is up to the OEM. So it could be available on all partially or fully unlocked SKUs depending on OEM design."
     
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    Not the most knowledgeable person on turbo bins, but would the non-K SKU's be able to sustain these added bins at full load?
     
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    AMA with Intel - 11th Gen Intel® Core™ H-Series Mobile Processors (Tiger Lake H)
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    Intel2 days ago

    "PL1 has a range of 35-45W for all SKUs except the i9-11980HK which has a PL1 range of 45-65W. Most OEMs are using a 45W "nominal". There are two levels of PL2. Base PL2 is 107 watts, performance PL2 is 135 watts. Default Tau is 56 seconds. OEMs have the flexibility to configure these values as they see fit." -ML

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...ology/turbo-boost/turbo-boost-technology.html
    Most likely no. Crippled firmware and the cooling ain't designed around max allowed OC bins. + Turbo boost in its default form is for burst loads until 56 sec.

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    https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...0007359/processors/intel-core-processors.html

    Edit. See also how the OEM castrate the Cpu power once you put stress on the Gpu simultaneous. Yeah, more cores was meant to be useful for streaming/other tasks while you gaming. How can you enjoy 5 bins of overclocking if the OEM heavly castrate the Cpu's power limit due not adquate cooling for both Cpu and Gpu?

    The company said that the Core i9-11900H is configured to use up to 50 W of sustained power with the GPU active and 90 W on its own. The CPU can be paired with up to an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU that is configured to consume up to 140 W via Dynamic Boost.

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-A...H-and-Ampere-RTX-30-Laptop-GPUs.538624.0.html
     
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    This goofball approach really is a great example of how idiotic the technology brain trust has become. The amount of power the CPU can use should be totally agnostic with respect to whether or not the GPU is being utilized and how much power the GPU is using. The only reason this stupid idea makes good sense is that it facilitates mass production of turdbooks with crappy engineering, defective thermal management systems and panty-waisted wuss power requirements.
     
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    The die can only dissipate so much..

    One could imagine that the GPU can use up to 40W, and that going above 90W, you get into such high power/mm2 values that no thermal paste would last for more than a couple seconds...

    I would say that slapping a 90W CPU into a laptop is the defective idea...
     
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    Laptops have been shipping 90w+ chips since 2019. As long as its an intel 8 core it uses 90w+ so this is nothing new.

    Paste works but only on vapour chamber systems it seems. Otherwise Lm is the only way to keep temps reasonable.
     
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    The problem is not the idea. If it is built correctly, even 250W is fine.

    The problem is half-assed engineering and laptop manufacturers not giving a rat's butt about the products they sell or the people that buy them. They just crank out the trash and let someone else worry about trying to deal with the fallout of their incompetence and lack of concern for quality. In the current scenario, 90W can be a serious problem. But, as we have already seen, so is 25W. The fact that most of them can keep a wimpy low-power chip from hitting 100°C, and then changing the rules to define overheating as 'normal' behavior, shows the magnitude of the incompetence and lack of integrity that has become common.

    The way they build laptop garbage nowadays, the only way these chintzy turdbooks are going to avoid thermal malfunction is by being left turned off.
     
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