New GE75 Raider 9SG owner looking for some advice

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  1. bm11

    bm11 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello all!

    New member here. I found this site when doing a bit of pre purchase research, and now that I'm an owner I am in need of a bit of advise!

    As a background- I purchased my first gaming laptop 5 years ago when I got into Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls (it is a much better experience on PC.) I ended up buying an ASUS ROG J-751JT (i7-4710HQ 2.5GHz, 16gb DDR3, 970m GPU, 7200 RPM HDD) which has served me well for the last 5 years.

    Recently Destiny 2 became Cross Save enabled, so I was able to access my PS4 account from Steam. I downloaded the game on my ASUS, and other than high strain situations, it functioned at the 60 FPS pretty much all the time using the GEForce Control Panel's recommended settings.

    However, I decided that since I do play the game a ton and because this laptop was 5 years old, that I could justify an upgrade. I wanted to make a big enough performance jump to really appreciate it, so I bought a MSI GE75 Raider 9SG-655, which is the i9-9880H model with the RTX 2080 (non Max-Q) GPU, 32GB of DDR4, and a SSD. I figured as well as my 5 year old rig ran D2, this one would be butter smooth.

    Which brings me to this thread. I've been having some challenges. This game runs real smooth when I first boot it up. I use the GEForce Control panel recommended settings, and the game stays at or close to the 144fps of my display. The problem comes when I run certain activities in game which must be high strain, as the laptop gets hot and the frame rate starts to suffer, the game no longer running smooth. This laptops exhaust is very loud compared to my ROG, and apparently this game makes it run hot enough to need them all the time (my ASUS was pretty quiet by comparison.) Furthermore, there have been a number of times where the frames have absolutely plummeted for a short period of time before recovering.

    I'm looking for a little advice on how to proceed. I'm definitely not a computer expert, but I have to believe the answer isn't "turn the graphics down really low if you want the game to run smooth" as my 5 year old laptop with no where near these specs runs the game smooth on lower settings, I bought this one specifically to be able to max it out.

    Thanks in advance!

    -Bob
     
  2. kill4l

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    hey Bob, the main issue with is heat, that's why your fans get louder, first off all i would recommend you to undervolt your CPU and GPU, there is a plenty guides available across the forum, use the search, for CPU i recommend using Throttlestop, as for me i clock down my CPU to 3.0-3.4 GHZ depends on the game am playing, sometimes i even disable turbo. it will reduce the heat, and will make your fans to run more silent. about GPU undervolting you can use MSI afterburner . wish you a good luck :)
    later on you can go with repasting :) but i would try the undervolting method first
     
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    Thanks for the advice! I'll look up a guide. I'm definitely not an expert, so I must be misunderstanding how my processor works stock. I was under the impression that it was 2.3 GHz stock and could be overclocked as high as 4.8 GHz, but you are saying that I should slow it down to 3-3.4 GHz, does that mean that it automatically increases its speed?
     
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    How are the temps on the GPU with this configuration? I am looking at purchasing a similar setup. Also did you get the upgraded thermals (paste/pads) or stock? Thanks for the help!
     
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    GPU generally lags behind the processor by 10 degrees, so it’s generally running in the low 70’s while gaming. As far as I know, it’s stock paste. I purchased it as an open box on EBay, so unsure as to the original origin.
     
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    I use throttlestop, here is the link http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/
     
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    Minor update- played some tonight, almost wonder if the issue is the game? There was an update today, apparently one of the issues was that it wasn’t saving the game settings, which means I was using default. I optimized via GEForce Experience, which pretty much maxed everything, and other than a couple 12fps stutters, the game stayed in the 130-210 FPS range.

    I also observed that while the CPU remained 10 degrees hotter than the GPU at about 82c, the utilization was only like 25%, while the GPU peaked out at around 97% utilization.

    Further advice is appreciated!
     
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    To clarify- the stutters were the frames dropping “to” 12 FPS, not “by” 12 FPS.
     
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    I'm starting to think so also. I observed what was going on via the system monitoring function on my Dragon Center 2.0 application, and during the heaviest gaming my CPU never exceeded low 80's C, and my GPU never exceeded low 70's C, which means that it should never thermal throttle, correct?

    Also, my GPU utilization was constantly in the high 90's. Am I correct in understanding that is a good thing?
     
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