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New Elantech and Asus Smart Gesture drivers, how are they?

Discussion in 'Asus' started by noxxle99, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. noxxle99

    noxxle99 Notebook Deity

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    gahbmwM5 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, as I just purchased a Asus K55A notebook, and am quite enamoured with it...
    I have D/L and installed the latest Asus Smart Gesture driver....however upon restarting I can not find it in my Mouse properties....anywhere?
    Asus Smart Gestures: 1.0.32

    I had the Elan driver installed...and it definately shows up in Mouse Properties: 10.9.50

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download K55A

    I have just tried the latest Elan driver 11.5.09...as I know that this is generic driver from the Asus website...but it too does not show up in Mouse properties..

    My biggest concern was the dam jumping curser in Win7...

    The incredible moving cursor: why your cursor jumps around when typing on your Windows 7 laptop | Gadget Writing

    But with Asus Smart Gesture driver and the latest Elan driver (both mentioned above)...I can not find where the settings are...lol
    Thanks...nice forums
     
  3. nipsen

    nipsen Notebook Deity

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    If it's anything like the last version, the (very) few settings they haven't hidden completely are available when you open the "SmartarseGesture" program. If it doesn't hang, and the process wants to drain your ram and processor time..

    I'd recommend avoiding the program altogether, use the Elantech driver pack, and spam support with complaints.
     
  4. lornz

    lornz Newbie

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    Does the Elantech driver pack support the gestures for windows 8 ?
     
  5. nipsen

    nipsen Notebook Deity

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    I don't know. If you mean swipe, three-finger scroll, zoom, multitouch, that sort of thing. Then yes.

    Asus basically just made a wrapper for the elantech driver, and removed a bunch of functions from it the last time.
     
  6. gahbmwM5

    gahbmwM5 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey nipsen,

    Thanks as that is what I suspected...after doing some more Google searches..
    I have a Logitech M310 mouse with the latest Logitech Setpoint drivers and was thinking possibly this was the culprit for not letting me the see the settings for the "SmartarseGesture" program...lol!

    At least with the Asus supported Elantech driver on the Asus support site v10.9.50...it allows me to uncheck the dam tab feature on the touchpad so I can regain my sanity...and be able to type in emails, forums...etc...without going nuts...lol

    I was curious that the latest Elantech drivers...generic on the Asus support site 11.5.09 also 'did not' show up in my Mouse properties...probably a propriety aspect...related to my laptop...
    Looks as if these are support for Win8...

    Thanks again...:thumbsup:
     
  7. nipsen

    nipsen Notebook Deity

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    Np. So do the search on the asus site for touchpad drivers, find the listing independent of laptop model. And pick the older driver before the Smartgesture drivers. Note that you can't pick the older drivers very quickly from the n56 page under "mouse", etc. You need to get the touchpad driver listing entry.

    I mean, honestly -- getting very fed up with Asus over the aftermarket care here. There were a lot of complaints when they updated the Smartgesture program automatically, and they actually pulled it from the updates the first time around. And then they redo the same thing again, make minimal changes to it -- and just submit it again, doing exactly the same as before. Somehow missing the fact that removing 3/4ths of the functions from the control panel, and forcing another memory hungry application with ten unnecessary services running - that that was the actual problem.

    Same attitude as with the memory timing. They don't change the memory timing. They just release another version of the laptop -- and then put the same braindead timing on it. They have fifteen different laptops, with completely different hardware, that all have the same bios settings. Just... unbelievable.
     
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    gahbmwM5 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Once again nipsen,

    Thanks m8, as I was able to upgrade from my current ElanTech v: 10.5.9.0 dated 2/20/2012 to v: 10.5.10 dated 5/10/2012 (generic driver on ASUS support site...and the settings/properties do show up in my Mouse Properties....:cool:

    I am just getting use to the overall ASUS Support site...and do feel your frustration, but hell I got a really good deal$$$ on the K55A model at BestBuy...and really can not complain...as I just researched and I can up grade ist 4GB DDR3 memory that came factory installed to 8GB DDR3....with another stick for $40-50....very nice...
     
  9. pcorp1

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    I have the n56vz, and this is by far the number 1 annoyance I have. Cursor jumping around and accidentally clicking things from palm touching the trackpad while typing. When I go to the troubleshooting page on the asus website, there is a feature on the elantech setting called "Palm Tracking" which fixes the problem (well I hope it does). I do not see this feature on my laptop's elantech settings. So I dled and installed the latest driver V11.5.0.9, currently I have V10.5.9.0 , but the elan touchpad setting was grayed-out after. And had to do a lot of uninstalling and reinstalling to revert it back to stock for my touchpad because the hotkey fn- f9 stopped working, and I finally just got it back to work again.

    My question is, how can I get this Palm Tracking feature? Which updated version can I download that is compatible with my laptop?
     
  10. Kahunar

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    For all Asus users i suggest using the newest Elantech drivers from Acer, more custom and closer to the real drivers.
     
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    Which ones work? I've started using the trackpad again lately, and the multi function gestures don't work!
    Ive uninstalled and reinstalled origional Asus Smart Gesture. Got version .32 and .35 from the support website but it still dosen't work grr.
    Can't seem to find the programme to change settings, can only find it if I go to Add/Remove Programmes.
     
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    Samcrac Notebook Consultant

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    I've been using them and I like them quite a bit. I believe that a lot of users complain but with the updated drivers it makes for an excellent used experience with Windows 8!
     
  13. MSGaldenzi

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    What Asus model are you using?
     
  14. bananakid

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    Hi everyone, recently got an N76VZ on Windows 7, and the trackpad sensitivity had been bugging me since day 1 like many of you here.
    I tried to fiddle with the hidden settings, like increasing the palm sensitivity to the max PLUS installing Touch Freeze, which seemed to have mitigated the issue, but still not good enough. In the end I installed the latest Asus Smart Gesture found on the web, and everything began to work fine.
    In comparison with the Elan driver, palm detection has greatly improved - cursor no longer jumps. This seemed to made possible by decreasing the overall sensitivity of the trackpad, because two-finger scrolling will struggle to register if I put the two fingers too close (<0.5cm?) when it previously worked perfectly fine. One finger tracking also takes a second to register at times.
    Another improvement is that the inertial scrolling now glides a hell lot more smoothly, though not yet butter smooth, it's a whole lot better than previously on Elan (so choppy I disabled it)
    Last but not least, the Smart Gesture driver seemed to have replaced my Elan driver completely. Although that is not an issue to me, the setting page for the trackpad is no where to be found which may be a problem to some of you who won't like the default settings.

    Btw, before installing the latest Smart Gesture, you have to remove the old ATK package, reboot, install the lastest ATK package found on the web, reboot again, and then install Smart Gesture.

    Update:
    My bad, the Smart Gesture does create a system tray, no sensitivity settings though, just a bunch of on/off switches
     
  15. TrekkieMonster

    TrekkieMonster Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is all great information. As I mentioned in another thread, I have a 2 week old N56VZ-SX71 running Win7. I love everything about it EXCEPT the damn jumping cursor (well, that and the inability to reverse the Fn/action keys' default). I've tried the recommended driver updates, but nothing is helping. Will follow this thread and continue trying fixes. I hope I come up with something, as I really like this machine, but the cursor jumping is driving me batty, and has ruined a number of emails and typed text files, as well as making surfing infuriating. Thanks again.
     
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    I bought a laptop just like this myself because the specs are really quite nice. And I am absolutely in love with it. Totally and completely. Until I tried the touchpad, which was just all over the place and clicking and shifting and doing stuff seemingly without me even being near it sometimes. As I read your post a weight literally lifted from me. I was pondering sending this back purely because of the touchpad, and that honestly made me quite sad because the laptop is so impeccably awesome in all other areas.

    So I followed all of your suggestions with high hopes, and it worked!!! As I write this message to you the mouse has barely moved. It was like the mouse was having some kind of ADHD fit before, moving and clicking all over the place, and it is fixed! Thank you thank you thank you! Using my laptop now feels the way it's supposed to. There seems to be some clicks showing up still, but it is nowhere near of what it was.

    The problem mostly was that during typing all this would go haywire, and that seems to be solved. The only thing I maybe could want a bit more of is customization within the gestures themselves. Such as turning off horizontal stuff but not vertical for example, but that's peanuts compared to what this was before this update. I'm willing to bet that ASUS realized that Elan made a huge mess with the whole touchpad thing and released their own drivers just to salvage the situation. :p
     
  17. avih

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    Not entirely correct.

    I've been using my N56VZ for about a month now (3630qm, full HD, win7) and I'm very happy with it (both cpu intensive and some gaming, nice!). I've tried few touchpad drivers, and while the latest (11.5.21 from asus site) does hide the elantech control panel, it's still accessible. All you need is to run ETDAniConf.exe from the INSTALL package (at \x64), and you get all the configuration which this driver supports (which is more than 10.5.90). It's not available at the control-panel/mouse nor as a tray icon, but your changes will stick across reboots and after opening the smart gestures panel, which is good enough. I also didn't experience excessive ram or cpu usage from the touchpad related drivers/utils.

    Overall, the above is what I'll recommend for most users.

    However, one might still wish to try the 11.13.0.2 driver, as it differs a bit from asus 11.5.21, as follows:
    - It provides configurable 2/3 fingers taps.
    - it adds edge scroll.
    - 3 fingers swipe up/down are my-computer/alt-tab instead of win-tab/show-desktop.

    However:
    - 3 fingers swipe left/right don't work.
    - fn-F9 doesn't work
    - there's a crash from ElanTPCfg64.exe after boot and when using fn-f9. The crashes can be solved by renaming "C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATK Hotkey\ElanTPCfg64.exe" to anything else. It can still be disabled enabled via the control panel, and also possibly enabled only when a mouse is not connected.

    I've also tried few other drivers, and these are my conclusions about them:

    - SmartGesture_Compal_Z1035
    - only basic smartgestures, ETDAniConf.exe NOT providing any useful config

    - 14.1.3
    - adds configureable Type rejection (meh)
    - otherwise, less features than elantech_touchpad_11.13.0.2allos

    - Touchpad_Elantech_Win7_64_Z10590 (Asus)
    - adds smart detector (area to reject/less-sensitive) (meh)
    - otherwise, less features than Touchpad_Elantech_Win7_64_Z11521

    I'm using 11.13.0.2 for now, because I like configurable 3F tap and edge scroll. Not sure if I'll stick with it though.
     
  18. raminux

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    Hello,
    Where can I find the Elantech drivers independent of Asus smart gesture software? I am unhappy with the latest Asus Smart Gesture and would like to try those drivers alone.

    Post edit: Never mind. I found it on Asus webpage. It seems things have improved overall though I am not sure. I still have problem with scrolling down using two fingers: it is slow and not quite responsive. Double tapping also sometimes doesn't register though after installing the new Elantech driver, I think this one has got better.
     
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    Does that version have the "smart area" thing? That disables two-finger touches or extra touches in general outside a set radius..?
     
  20. avih

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    No, but it does have configurable "Palm Tracking" (single slider which I set to the max), which I find quite effective.

    I use the KB quite a lot while the touchpad is enabled with highest sensitivity, yet I rarely get unintended cursor movements (and even those are not more than few pixels), and I never got an unintentional click, while it still reacts perfectly (or at least not worse than other drivers which I tried) to intentional usage.
     
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