New Dell Studio 17 announced (Studio 1745/47)

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  1. c-mattic

    c-mattic Notebook Consultant

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    Great News !!!

    Dell has anounced they will soon update the studio 17.

    Specifications:

    - Core i7-720QM (quad-core): 1,6 Ghz (2,8 Ghz in Turbo mode) and 6MB L3-Cache
    - 2 to 8 GB DDR3 memory
    - Connectios: 1 line-in and 2 line-out, IEEE 1394, HDMI, Gigabit Ethernet RJ45, 2 USB, USB/e-sata combo, VGA, Displayport
    - Ati Mobilty Radeon 4570/4650 (DDR3 512/1GB)
    - JBL 2.1 Speakers (2 x 1.5 watt and 3 watt subwoofer)
    - 2MP Webcam
    - Display 17.3":
    1) 1600x900, WLED, 220 nits, normal viewing angles (H40/40, V15/30)
    2) 1920x1080, RGB LED, 300 nits, great viewing angles (H60/60, V50/50)
    - 6 or 9-cell battery
    - Touchbar (yes he didn't dissapeared like on the studio 1555!)

    The new studio 17 will be slightly lighter and thinner. But don't expect much difference.
    Hope to be able to post some pics soon!

    More info? Dell support page (http://support.euro.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/studio1747/en/index.htm

    Frequently asked questions:
    What are the differences between the new studio 17 (model n° 1745/47) and the old (model n° 1735/37)?
    (read: new vs old)
    - Core i7 vs Core 2 Duo
    - DDR3 ram (max 8GB) vs DDR2 ram (max 4GB)
    - Ati Radeon 4650 1GB vs Ati Radeon 3650 256MB
    - 17.3" LED screen vs 17" screen (LED optional)
    - JBL 2.1 SRS Premium Sound (incl. subwoofer) vs Intel HD Audio 2.0 (no subwoofer)
    - 7200 rpm standard hdd vs 5400 standard hdd
    - standard 9-cell battery vs 6-cell battery (9-cell optional)
    - 3 USB ports (incl. USB/E-sata combo) vs 4 USB ports
    - Displayport vs none
    - 32 mm Expresscard vs 54mm Expresscard slot

    Both have HDMI, Firewire, VGA, 2 line-out and 1 line-in, 8-in-1 Media card reader, Gigabit Ethernet, Bleutooth and Backlit Keyboard (optional).
    The new studio 17 is slightly thinner (39 vs 43 mm) and lighter (3.2 kg vs 3.57 kg in minimum configuration).

    When will it be available worldwide?
    Nowadays it should be available almost everywhere in the world.

    What is the core i7 turbo mode?
    Quoted from Mastershroom:
    The Core i7 Turbo Mode basically allows unused cores to "shut off" temporarily while overclocking the remaining active cores. If all 4 cores are used, the CPU runs at its default speed for all cores. If it's running 2 cores, then the two being used are overclocked by a good amount. If it's a single-threaded app running on just one core, that core clocks up even higher.

    Where can I find more info about the new i7 technology?
    Take a look at this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=420331

    Where can I find a review of the new studio 17?
    Notebookreview.com - link
    Laptopmag.com - link
    Notebookjournal.de (German) - link
    No review has been found with the Full HD (1920x1080) screen yet.

    Does the new studio 17 has a Synaptics touchpad instead of the Alps one in the old studio 17?
    Yes, as the studio 15, the new studio 17 is the proud owner of a better touchpad.

    Is there a built-in tv-tuner?
    Yes, according to the manual. And according to Dell drivers, it's one from Avermedia.
    At the moment (25/09) the option is not yet available when you order, nor is the extra cost known.

    What to do when you're experiencing the 7 beeps of dead (=cpu failure)?
    First report your problem to Dell technical support!

    Dell is investigating the problem at the moment. But a temporary fix is available. Beware, this fix doesn't guarantee your notebook is completely fixed. Keep up to date with news from Dell!


    What about the throttle issue? Is there a solution yet?
    Dell has acknowledged the problem and are still investigating it. They haven't given an official solution yet.

    Some users have come with their own (not official) solution. It involves buying a more powerfull Dell 130W psu (=power supply unit) and installing some software named Throttlestop, which removes the 90w consumption limit.

    Beware, this solution (as far as it is one) is at own risk!

    The appropriate Dell 130w psu's:
    PA-13
    PA-4E

    Throttlestop software: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/ThrottleStop.zip

    Ubuntu issues:

    RECENT UPDATE:

    How to install the sound drivers for the studio 1747 with Ubuntu 9.10?
    How to install the video drivers for the studio 1747 with Ubuntu 9.10?
    Does Ubuntu handles the Intel Turbo mode technology?
     
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  2. Ice Cold

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    But whats the die size?? and the TDP of the new CPU's

    I won't bother buying unless its 32nm

    http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/core_i7_systems/fs.aspx?refid=core_i7_systems&s=dhs&cs=19

    there are 2 choices

    Core i7 720QM or Core i7 820QM


    http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/.../09/23/march-of-the-dell-core-i7-laptops.aspx


    Look at the specs on the new Studio 17 for $1099, WOW!!! with a $50 rebate, that should blow anything out of the water

    still need the die size, and TDP

    and what gives no more RGB LED option hmmmm somethings wrong

    and glad to see I was 100% correct, the Studio 17 refresh was just around the corner exactly as I predicted.

    So glad I extended my warranty another year this is what I will probably get as my replacement in 6 months SWEET!!!
     
  3. ilkhan

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    these are clarkfield chips and no, they are not 32nm (they're still 45nm).
    TDP is 45/45/55 (720QM/820QM/920XM) which includes the heat that was on the old northbridge chips which is now on the CPU die.

    I dont know how that GPU compares to the alternatives available though. Mobile GPUs just confuse me lately.
     
  4. tizzao

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    I wonder if these processors will be upgradeable to the 32nm version. i.e., I wonder if, when the 32nm chips come out, these will be able to just pop them right in.

    EDIT: Nevermind, Arrandale has it's own socket.
     
  5. Ice Cold

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    These are 45nm not worth buying at all. My Core 2 Duo Montvenia is 45nm.

    Ask a replacement Studio 17 for the $50 it cost me for another warranty year sure I will take it buy by then

    32nm Arrandale will be out as part of a refresh by this time next year.

    Looking forward to 32nm Arrandale and low TDP watt usage

    the one announced today are Clarkfield 45nm with a TDP of 45 watts no thanks

    my Core 2 Duo is 45nm and uses 35 TDP watts

    DDR3 dropping from 1.8volts in DDDR 2 to 1.5volts in DDR3 may help offset the Battery life suckage

    my long standing Policy has always been ONLY upgrade and buy when its a DIE shrink, if not the gain will be minimal.


    Sure the 45 TDP watt 45nm Core i7, performance wise blows away the 45nm Core 2 Duo.

    However since DELL for some reason, is not offering the RGB LED 1920x1200 Display on the Studio 17, I will consider my 1737 Superior.

    For now I am happy for the people who will buy these. But becarefull the Configurations DELL is offering on the new 1747 Suck no N WiFi only the Dell 802.11g receiver
    and no RGB LED.



    For this time next year around Christmas I will be looking forward to a new.

    32nm Core i7 with a TDP of 20 Watts way superior battery life and performance

    6GB DDR3 1333mhz performance RAM

    Mobile ATI 5000 series cards (drool 40nm)

    For free as a Replacement to my Studio 1737..


    HAHA LOL
     
  6. aidil

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    There's a TV antenna connector, subwoofer, and B+RG LED for HD screen... Interesting.

    But wait...

    Only 3 USBs and only 1 full size Mini PCIe slots and 2 are for half size cards...??? It might not be so good after all. :(
     
  7. ilkhan

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    nope, same socket for arrandale. Different chipset (to support the GPU, if you want it), but same socket.

    The parts announced today are quads and that +10W TDP includes two extra cores and the memory controller (which used to be counted separately).
    Oh, and arrandale will be out within the next 3 months but is only a dual core (still preferable to me, but keep your names straight).
     
  8. Simpler=Better

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    Darnit I just broke down and got a 1737 last week :p
    I guess the 1737 will be recommissioned as my Mom's desktop replacement...meaning I will need a new laptop :D
     
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    Just return it.
     
  10. Ice Cold

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    well it is a little thinner and lighter, vs the 1737, has 2 full size PCI Express Mini, and 1 Half Mini.

    the 1737 has 4 USB 2.0 slots + 1 eSata, which is also USB 2.0 (clearly looks like they sacrificed a USB for Display Port) they should have killed off VGA

    the new 1747, also has 32mm Card slot vs 54mm card slot on the 1737.

    And I still have not seen officially from DELL the RGB LED option.

    clearly it would not be the same sourced 17" RGB LED since the new 1747 is 17.3" inches so it has to be a new panel.


    I am really interested mainly by that "Antenna" port is that for TV or WiFi??

    because I have always wanted an external cantenna for my 1737 but have no way to hook it up.

    All in all good desktop replacement, They will improved it much by this time next year.
     
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