New Asus ROG Ryzen Laptops On The Way!

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  1. Deks

    Deks Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hm... a bit steep indeed.
    Why is 8GB RAM still a baseline offer in 2017?
    I installed that into my Acer about 5 years ago.

    The RAM speeds are throwing me off a bit as Ryzen could use faster memory to work better.

    Alternatively, one could configure the 1700 laptop with 4GB RAM (if configuarbility is offered) and then just buy 16GB of 3000 Mhz one off Amazon if Asus won't offer them.

    A same desktop 1700 Ryzen system (with a 1080p freesync monitor, keyboard and mouse) would come out to about £1100 -£1200. But forget portability in those desktop systems.


    I guess the trade-off here is that you either need more graphics power (in which case you'd go for the system with GTX 1070, or you go for the more powerful CPU (1700).

    1600 system seems like I could manage it... though I'd really prefer 1700 due to 8 cores.


    Although, the battery seems weak.


    BTW Miguel... where did you see those pre-order prices?
    I don't see them on the asus website.
     
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  2. thegh0sts

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    4gb vram? really?
     
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    Basically a death sentence from the start.
     
  4. Tanner@XoticPC

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    It's BGA right? Could they have run out of room on the board?
     
  5. Deks

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    We don't know if the 580 is bga though. But we knew it will have 4gb vram. It's probably one of the reasons they were able to bring it down to 65w tdp (in addition to undervolting and clocking it to 1200 MHz).

    I wonder though what the temperatures will be.
     
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    I just haven't seen the boards supporting mobile AMDs lately, hopefully we can get a look at one.
     
  7. Kevin

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    Dead On Arrival.

    You could just buy a laptop with a GTX 1070. Good job, AMD and ASUS.

    As a wise the wise philosopher Conor McGregor once said:

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  8. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Asus / AMD are using PGA, so you could swap in another CPU at some point in the future :)
    They are selling the laptop based on the value of the CPU, not the GPU.
     
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    ASUS ROG branding means it is a gaming laptop first, and should be judged as such by consumers like us.

    Only the most dedicated power user of CPUs would take this over a combo of Intel i7 and GTX 1060/1070.

    Gaming laptops don't sell because of their CPUs. If that is really why it's so expensive, they've gone mad.
     
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    One of the problems any laptop maker has adding AMD to their line up is the tooling and build costs on lower quantity runs, so they charge more, which doesn't help sales - but it's needed to cover the costs.

    When the Vega GPU's come out there will be a better pairing, but for now the 580 is it.

    A better pairing right now would be AMD CPU + 1080, but Nvidia would likely fight that as they don't want to help AMD in either CPU or GPU market.

    The pricing isn't that bad - the performance is more than enough for the price.

    I buy gaming laptops for performance, even for work the other high end laptops are gaming laptops, I don't need the even more overpriced workstation laptops - they are way too overpriced for what you get compared to a "gaming" laptop.

    So there will be engineers that buy the GL702XC for CPU performance, with a RX580 for "fun-time".

    That CPU is so much better than a typical laptop CPU that someone with work needs will get it over a laptop CPU + 1070/1060.

    I think Asus could sell a lot of them, I just hope they make enough to make a market. :)
     
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