Net Neutrality FCC Vote Today December 14, 2017

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    The entertainment sector? Like Hollywood? Gives more to Republicans?

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Oh wait, you’re serious? Then let me laugh some more.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    You net neutrality cultists are an absolute riot.


    http://time.com/4084807/hollywood-political-donors-hillary-clinton/

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    Senate Approves Overturning FCC's Net Neutrality Repeal
    May 16, 201811:48 AM ET
    Heard on All Things Considered
    By BILL CHAPPELL, SUSAN DAVIS
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...proves-overturning-fccs-net-neutrality-repeal
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    "Senate Democrats say they have the votes to formally disapprove of the FCC's Internet policy that will take effect next month. Here, supporters of net neutrality protest the decision to repeal the Obama-era rule. Kyle Grillot/Reuters

    Updated at 4:22 p.m. ET
    The Senate approved a resolution Wednesday to nullify the Federal Communications Commission's net neutrality rollback, dealing a symbolic blow to the FCC's new rule that remains on track to take effect next month.

    The final vote was 52-47. As expected, Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, joined Democrats in voting to overturn the FCC's controversial decision. But two other Republicans — Sen. John Kennedy of Louisiana and Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska — also voted in favor of the resolution of disapproval.

    The outcome is unlikely to derail the FCC's repeal of Obama-era rules that restrict Internet service providers' ability to slow down or speed up users' access to specific websites and apps.

    The legislative victory is fleeting because the House does not intend to take similar action, but Democrats are planning to carry the political fight over Internet access into the 2018 midterms.

    "Today is a monumental day," said Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., during debate over the resolution. "Today we show the American people who sides with them, and who sides with the powerful special interests and corporate donors who are thriving under this administration."

    Critics of the FCC rollback say they're worried about consumers being forced to pay more for less consistent or slower service. FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, part of the Republican majority, has said the Obama rule was "heavy-handed" and isn't needed.

    Markey described a coalition of Internet voters who bridge the usual philosophical party lines when it comes to government regulation. "The grandparents, the gamers, the gearheads, the geeks, the GIF-makers, the Generations X, Y, and Z. This movement to save net neutrality is made up of every walk of American life," he said.

    Republicans overwhelmingly support ending net neutrality because they want to shift regulatory power away from the federal government and toward the private market. Republicans also argue that Democrats are playing on unfounded fears that Internet service providers will jack up costs and anger their consumer base. "If the Democrats want to run on regulating the Internet, I think that's a losing strategy," said Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., who runs the Senate GOP's 2018 campaign operation and voted against the resolution.

    This issue doesn't cut along clean party lines, said Steven Kull, who runs the Program for Public Consultation at the University of Maryland and has studied public attitudes on net neutrality. The program's research has found that majorities of Americans support government-mandated net neutrality protections.

    "People are on the Internet a lot and it's a big part of their daily experience and the prospect that it will be changed in some fundamental way is disturbing to quite a lot of them," Kull said.

    Fear is a great motivator for voters. Senate Democrats believe their resolution that put every Democrat on record in support of net neutrality — and most Republicans on record against it — can turn what was once considered a wonk issue into a wedge issue this November. "People underestimate the passion of Internet voters, at their peril. They are mad, and they want to know what they can do, and this vote will make things crystal clear," he said.

    Republicans like Rep. Scott Taylor of Virginia think Democrats are wrong on the policy of net neutrality and that eliminating FCC rules will expand competition and consumer choice. However, he concedes that Democrats have done a better job of selling their message to voters and says there could be consequences if Republicans don't engage more directly with voters on an issue they care about.

    "It's important Republicans have a clear and concise message to tell them why net neutrality, while it sounds good, and maybe it's even well-intended, is not the right answer for them," Taylor said.

    Net neutrality doesn't make for catchy campaign slogans, but there are indicators that voters are clocking this issue. According to data provided by Google, net neutrality regularly ranks among top political searches in each state.

    In Pennsylvania and Nebraska, which held their primary elections on Tuesday, it ranked second in political searches behind health care. "This is one of those areas where Washington, D.C., sometimes gets in a bubble and doesn't recognize what's going on in the rest of the country," said Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., who runs the Senate Democrats' 2018 campaign operation.

    Kull is more skeptical that net neutrality will be a potent voter motivator this year unless people start to see changes to their Internet costs, speed or access. Voters may know soon enough: The Obama-era net neutrality rules expire June 11."
     
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    Senate Votes to Restore Net Neutrality - IGN News
    IGN News
    Published on May 16, 2018
    The Senate has voted to restore the FCC's Net Neutrality rules, but the movement still needs to pass the House and get the President's signature. 24 States are working toward their own Net Neutrality protections for Internet consumers.
     
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    How states can protect net neutrality if Congress won't
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    Published on May 16, 2018
    The Senate voted Wednesday to repeal the Federal Communications Commission's dismantling of net neutrality regulations. PC Magazine software analyst Max Eddy spoke to CBSN about why he thinks this bill won't pass the House, and what individual states can do to protect net neutrality for their own residents.
     
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    Haha. Are you serious that you only read half of a sentence? Like Hollywood? No. Like the three companies I stated within the same sentence, which I should have said are in the ISP sector.

    I don't believe anyone is naive enough to believe NN is solely a us vs. the evil corps. fight. There are many large companies on both sides which stand to gain or lose on this issue. But what are you implying when you say 'you NN cultists are an absolute riot'? Are you in favor of the ISP's since they own it and can do whatever they please- a free market, don't regulate position? Please expound on your comment.
     
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    ISPs and Ajit Pai are really sad about Senate’s vote for net neutrality
    After Senate vote to maintain net neutrality, broadband lobby steps up opposition.

    JON BRODKIN - 5/17/2018, 9:55 AM
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ly-sad-about-senates-vote-for-net-neutrality/
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    MAY 16, 2018: Senate Minority Leader Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) at a press conference after a Senate vote to maintain net neutrality rules.

    "Broadband lobby groups and FCC Chairman Ajit Pai are upset about yesterday's US Senate vote to restore net neutrality rules and are calling on Republican lawmakers to kill the effort in the House.

    Yesterday's Senate vote "throws into reverse our shared goal of maintaining an open, thriving Internet," said USTelecom, which represents AT&T, Verizon, CenturyLink, and other telcos.

    USTelecom claimed to speak on behalf of Internet users, saying that "Consumers want permanent, comprehensive online protections, not half measures or election year posturing from our representatives in Congress."

    Cable lobby group NCTA also condemned the Senate vote—while trying to convince the public that its members support net neutrality. Both USTelecom and NCTA were part of a failed lawsuit that sought to kill net neutrality rules, but they got their wish when the Federal Communications Commissionvoted to repeal them in December 2017.

    Pai predicts failure in House
    The Senate yesterday voted 52-47 to reverse the FCC repeal of net neutrality rules. If the House and President Trump also approve the measure, ISPs would have to continue following rules that prohibit blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization. Pai's net neutrality repeal is slated to take effect on June 11, unless Congress stops it.

    Pai defended his net neutrality repeal, saying that having no net neutrality rules at all "will help promote digital opportunity" and "mak[e] high-speed Internet access available to every single American." Pai said he is "confident that [Democrats'] effort to reinstate heavy-handed government regulation of the Internet will fail" in the House.

    Pai's statement did not explain how eliminating rules against blocking or throttling Internet content would help expand Internet access. Pai has previously claimed that the net neutrality repeal is already spurring new broadband investment, but his evidence consisted mostly of deployments that were planned during the Obama administration or funded directly by the FCC before Pai was the chair.

    The Senate vote also drew condemnation from wireless lobby group CTIA, Charter Communications, and AT&T, among others.

    CTIA said that the FCC's repeal of net neutrality rules hasn't prevented Americans from accessing online content—but CTIA failed to note that the rules are still in effect. "[T]he predictions of naysayers failed to materialize" after the December repeal vote, CTIA wrote. "[O]ur wireless experience remains open and fast, and we can access the content of our choosing when and how we want."

    Charter argued that the net neutrality rules and common carrier regulation of broadband "treat the Internet like a government controlled utility, restrict innovation and deter broadband deployment to less populated communities."

    Democrats will try to force House vote
    While Democratic lawmakers pushed the net neutrality bill through the Senate, Republicans have a 236-193 majority in the House and may be able to kill the effort to preserve net neutrality. Democrats need a majority of representatives to sign a discharge petition in order to force a House vote.

    "With the majority leadership in the House opposed to this bill, the only way to bring it before the full House for a vote is through a discharge petition," Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Penn.), who is filing the petition, said yesterday. "I'm sure that every member of the House will want to know where their constituents stand on this issue."

    In the Senate, three Republican senators broke ranks in order to vote for net neutrality rules. House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) supported the FCC's net neutrality repeal and could try to prevent the Democrats' resolution from coming to a vote.

    "I encourage my colleagues in the House to listen to the American people, force a vote on... Doyle's resolution, and send it to the president's desk," Rep. Frank Pallone, Jr. (D-N.J.) said.

    Disclosure: The Advance/Newhouse Partnership, which owns 13 percent of Charter, is part of Advance Publications. Advance Publications owns Condé Nast, which owns Ars Technica."
     
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    House Democrats are collecting signatures to force a vote on net neutrality
    By Russell Brandom @russellbrandom May 18, 2018, 4:22pm EDT
    https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/18/17352480/house-democrats-net-neutrality-vote

    "A coalition of House Democrats has begun proceedings to force a vote to restore net neutrality protections. The discharge petition, introduced by Rep. Mike Doyle (D-PA), allows the House to force a vote if half the representatives sign on, giving activists until the end of the session in January to collect the necessary signatures. They currently have 90, all from Democrats.

    The resolution would roll back FCC chairman Ajit Pai’s recent internet order under the Congressional Review Act, effectively restoring the 2015 rules against paid prioritization and throttling. The resolution passed the Senate earlier this week but faces steep odds in the House: to win the necessary votes, more than 20 Republican representatives will have to break with their party and support the repeal. Even if the resolution does make it through Congress, it will require President Trump’s signature to take effect, which is a difficult hurdle given his historical opposition to the 2015 rules.

    Still, activists believe net neutrality’s broad popularity could force House Republicans and even the president to change sides on the issue. Even if they don’t, many see the vote as a chance to force members of Congress to take sides ahead of a heated midterm.

    “There is nowhere to hide, and there are no excuses,” said Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI) after the Senate vote. “You are either for a free and open internet or you are not.”"
     
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    Congress may ultimately legislate an end to net neutrality battle
    Lawmakers are fighting over rules put in place by the FCC during the Obama administration that would give the commission the authority to govern Internet companies like they do the telecommunications industry.
    May 22, 2018 12:00 AM
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ely-legislate-an-end-to-net-neutrality-battle

    "Lawmakers would like to solve the long-running dispute over “net neutrality” regulations by passing a bipartisan law. But for now, politics are getting in the way.

    Democrats, eager to champion a populist issue ahead of the midterm elections, have not yet been willing to work with Republicans on a bipartisan bill that would ensure the Internet remains open and fair, but not overburdened by government regulation.

    Instead, Democrats are working to reverse a recent Federal Communications Commission ruling in order to restore Obama-era regulations over the Internet. And the left side of the aisle has been successful so far.

    They commandeered the Senate floor last week using a procedural maneuver that forced a vote on reversing the FCC ruling. The measure passed the Senate over the majority GOP objections with the help of Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and two other Republicans.

    Buoyed Democrats are now gathering support in the House and hope to collect 218 signatures on a discharge petition, which would force the GOP majority to call up the measure for a vote in the lower chamber.

    “I think members are in for a real treat,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said last week. “They're going to hear, overwhelmingly, from their constituents, in big numbers, about the priority they place on a free, fair and open Internet.”

    While a House vote is not assured, and a signature from President Trump unlikely, the effort to reverse the FCC ruling will drag out the partisan back-and-forth on Internet rules, creating uncertainty for consumers and businesses.

    Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., who is chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, said he would much rather have Republicans and Democrats come up with compromise legislation.

    “This vote was about politics, not protecting net neutrality," Thune said last week. “Unfortunately, it’s only going to delay Senate Democrats from coming to the table and negotiating bipartisan net neutrality legislation.”

    Lawmakers are fighting over rules put in place by the FCC during the Obama administration that would give the commission the authority to govern Internet companies like they do the telecommunications industry.

    Proponents say this will ensure big Internet companies treat everyone fairly and do not use blocking, throttling or other techniques that harm consumers and smaller businesses.

    But net neutrality opponents say the FCC ruling was unnecessary and would stifle the industry with burdensome rules and regulations. As soon as Obama left office, the FCC, under Trump appointee Ajit Pai, reversed the ruling.

    The Senate vote last week spearheaded by Democrats would undo the latest FCC action, putting the Obama-era rule back in place.

    Thune proposed legislation in draft form three years ago to address net neutrality concerns, but the bill lacked bipartisan support.

    The measure would ban the Internet companies from engaging in anti-consumer actions such as blocking or slowing Internet speeds, but it would also prohibit the government from regulating the Internet like a phone company.

    Thune said he is in favor of government regulating the Internet, but said the original FCC regulation was too heavy-handed and would use a 1930s-era law to oversee the Internet. Last week, he pleaded with Democrats last week to drop the effort to restore that rule and instead work with the GOP on a compromise bill.

    “There are fair-minded people, serious about this, who would like to sit down across the table and work on a draft of legislation that would put Internet principles in place and protections in place but use a light touch regulator approach,” Thune said.

    Democrats have shown no signs of backing down in either the House or Senate, but they have acknowledged in less publicized venues that the only solution will likely be through legislation.

    “There are those of us on the issue of net neutrality that are still ultimately trying to get a bipartisan solution in legislation,” Sen Bill Nelson, D-Fla., the ranking member on the Commerce panel, said during a committee hearing last week.
    Lawmakers would like to solve the long-running dispute over “net neutrality” regulations by passing a bipartisan law. But for now, politics are getting in the way.

    Democrats, eager to champion a populist issue ahead of the midterm elections, have not yet been willing to work with Republicans on a bipartisan bill that would ensure the Internet remains open and fair, but not overburdened by government regulation.

    Instead, Democrats are working to reverse a recent Federal Communications Commission ruling in order to restore Obama-era regulations over the Internet. And the left side of the aisle has been successful so far.

    They commandeered the Senate floor last week using a procedural maneuver that forced a vote on reversing the FCC ruling. The measure passed the Senate over the majority GOP objections with the help of Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and two other Republicans.

    Buoyed Democrats are now gathering support in the House and hope to collect 218 signatures on a discharge petition, which would force the GOP majority to call up the measure for a vote in the lower chamber.

    “I think members are in for a real treat,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said last week. “They're going to hear, overwhelmingly, from their constituents, in big numbers, about the priority they place on a free, fair and open Internet.”

    While a House vote is not assured, and a signature from President Trump unlikely, the effort to reverse the FCC ruling will drag out the partisan back-and-forth on Internet rules, creating uncertainty for consumers and businesses.

    Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., who is chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, said he would much rather have Republicans and Democrats come up with compromise legislation.

    “This vote was about politics, not protecting net neutrality," Thune said last week. “Unfortunately, it’s only going to delay Senate Democrats from coming to the table and negotiating bipartisan net neutrality legislation.”

    Lawmakers are fighting over rules put in place by the FCC during the Obama administration that would give the commission the authority to govern Internet companies like they do the telecommunications industry.

    Proponents say this will ensure big Internet companies treat everyone fairly and do not use blocking, throttling or other techniques that harm consumers and smaller businesses.

    But net neutrality opponents say the FCC ruling was unnecessary and would stifle the industry with burdensome rules and regulations. As soon as Obama left office, the FCC, under Trump appointee Ajit Pai, reversed the ruling.

    The Senate vote last week spearheaded by Democrats would undo the latest FCC action, putting the Obama-era rule back in place.

    Thune proposed legislation in draft form three years ago to address net neutrality concerns, but the bill lacked bipartisan support.

    The measure would ban the Internet companies from engaging in anti-consumer actions such as blocking or slowing Internet speeds, but it would also prohibit the government from regulating the Internet like a phone company.

    Thune said he is in favor of government regulating the Internet, but said the original FCC regulation was too heavy-handed and would use a 1930s-era law to oversee the Internet. Last week, he pleaded with Democrats last week to drop the effort to restore that rule and instead work with the GOP on a compromise bill.

    “There are fair-minded people, serious about this, who would like to sit down across the table and work on a draft of legislation that would put Internet principles in place and protections in place but use a light touch regulator approach,” Thune said.

    Democrats have shown no signs of backing down in either the House or Senate, but they have acknowledged in less publicized venues that the only solution will likely be through legislation.

    “There are those of us on the issue of net neutrality that are still ultimately trying to get a bipartisan solution in legislation,” Sen Bill Nelson, D-Fla., the ranking member on the Commerce panel, said during a committee hearing last week."
     
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    California Senate defies AT&T, votes for strict net neutrality rules
    California may impose tougher net neutrality rules than the FCC did.
    JON BRODKIN - 5/30/2018, 1:48 PM
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...es-att-votes-for-strict-net-neutrality-rules/

    "The California State Senate today approved net neutrality rules that are even stricter than the federal regulations they're meant to replace.

    The California bill would replicate the US-wide bans on blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization that were implemented by the FCC in 2015, and it would go beyond the FCC rules with a ban on paid data-cap exemptions. California is one of several states trying to impose state-level net neutrality rules because the FCC's Republican leadership decided to eliminate the federal rules effective June 11.

    The California Senate passed the bill by a vote of 23-12, with all 23 aye votes coming from Democrats and all 12 noes coming from Republicans. To become law in California, the bill also needs approval from the Democratic-majority State Assembly and Governor Jerry Brown, also a Democrat.

    AT&T and a cable lobby group spoke out against the bill at committee hearing last month, with AT&T complaining that the bill "goes well beyond" the FCC rules. But the Democratic-majority Senate was not deterred by broadband-industry arguments.

    "When Donald Trump's FCC took a wrecking ball to the Obama-era net neutrality protections, we said we would step in to make sure that California residents would be protected from having their Internet access manipulated," bill sponsor Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) said in an announcement after the vote. "I want to thank the enormous grassroots coalition that is fighting tooth and nail to help pass [this bill] and protect a free and open Internet. We have a lot more work to get this bill through the Assembly, but this is a major win in our fight to reinstate net neutrality in California."

    The Senate just passed my bill protecting #NetNeutrality in California, #SB822. I’m deeply appreciative for my colleagues’ support of this effort to protect the internet. If our federal govt won’t protect a free & open internet, the States must step in. Now on to the Assembly ...
    — Scott Wiener (@Scott_Wiener) May 30, 2018

    California's Senate passed a different net neutrality bill in January, but it didn't go through the Assembly. Wiener's legislation "is the first state-level bill that would comprehensively secure all of the net neutrality protections that Americans currently enjoy," according to Stanford law professor Barbara van Schewick.

    Neutral access to the Internet
    The bill's core principle is that ISPs should "provide neutral access to the Internet" instead of "pick[ing] winners and losers by deciding (based on financial payments or otherwise) which websites or applications will be easy or hard to access, which will have fast or slow access, and which will be blocked entirely," Wiener's announcement said.

    Besides the core rules against blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization, Wiener's bill "prohibits misleading marketing practices and enacts strong disclosure requirements to better inform consumers," his announcement said.

    Wiener's bill had support from three former FCC commissioners, including former Chairman Tom Wheeler; dozens of small businesses; labor unions; public interest groups such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation; State Attorney General Xavier Becerra; and the mayors of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose, Sacramento, and other cities.

    A similar bill is being considered in the New York legislature.

    A big concern among net neutrality supporters is whether the broadband industry will be able to block state net neutrality rules in the court system. ISPs will argue that states are preempted by the FCC decision to eliminate nationwide net neutrality rules. But the FCC's decision to restrict its own authority over broadband might give states the ability to impose regulations protecting their residents."

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